Florida teacher on the impact of new restrictions

ABC News’ Linsey Davis spoke with Florida High School teacher Don Falls on the new restrictions on the state's school libraries and what the impact could be on both teachers and students.
5:17 | 02/03/23

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 ANY INFORMATION OF THE INCIDENTS. >> NEW GUIDANCE IN FLORIDA HAS SOME SCHOOL DISTRICTS DIRECTING TEACHERS TO COVER UP OR REMOVE BOOKS IN THEIR CLASSROOMS. THE STATE BOARD OF EDUCATION RULED LAST MONTH THAT A LAW RESTRICTING SCHOOL LIBRARIES FROM DISPLAYING OR GIVING BOOKS STUDENTS BOOKS THAT HAD NOT -- SEXUAL CONTENT ALSO APPLIES TO BOOKS DISPLAYED IN CLASSROOMS. ANY TRUTH THAT VIOLATES THIS COULD FACE UP TO FIVE YEARS IN PRISON AND A 5000 DOLLAR SIGN. FINE. JOINING US NOW IS DON FOLDS, WHO TEACHES HISTORY AND GOVERNMENT AT MANATEE HIGH SCHOOL IN FLORIDA. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US. YOU HAVE SAID THAT YOU DO NOT WANT TO GO THROUGH THE VETTING PROCESS BECAUSE YOU HAVE HUNDREDS OF BOOKS IN YOUR CLASSROOM. YOU HAVE TITLES IN PARTICULAR THAT YOU ARE WORRIED WE'LL VIOLATE THIS GUIDANCE? >> THERE IS NOT SPECIFIC TITLES. BUT I DO HAVE AN EXTENSIVE LIBRARY OF LITERATURE AND HISTORY BOOKS. I HAVE BOOKS ON SLAVERY, ON RACE. I HAVE BOOKS ON -- FOR EXAMPLE, I HAVE A BOOK ON THE HISTORY OF ABORTION IN AMERICA. I AM NOT SURE HOW THEY WOULD GO THROUGH THE VETTING PROCESS. I AM NOT REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT IT. FROM A STANDPOINT OF BEDDING THE BOOKS, IT JUST A MATTER OF A PRACTICALLY BEING ABLE TO DO. IT THAT MANY BOOKS, TRYING TO ENTER THEM INTO A SYSTEM, IT'S TIME THAT I COULD BE SPENDING WITH MY STUDENTS AND OTHER THINGS. AND NOT PUTTING BOOKS INTO A COMPUTER BASE. >> WE REACHED OUT TO THE MANATEE COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THEY SAY THE BOOKS THAT ARE NOT BEING VETTED NEED TO BE COVERED. BUT YOU ARE BEING TOLD SOMETHING DIFFERENT NOW ABOUT COVERING UP THE BOOKS? >> WE WERE TOLD LAST WEEK OR EARLIER THIS WEEK THAT THE -- NOT NECESSARY AS LONG AS BOOKS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN VETTED ARE NOT GIVEN OUT TO STUDENTS. SO IF I HAVE BOOKS ON MY SHELF THAT HAVE NOT GONE THROUGH THE SYSTEM, THEN THEY CAN BE VISIBLE, BUT THEY CANNOT BE GIVEN OUT TO THE STUDENTS. THAT WAS THE LAST INFORMATION THAT WE WERE GIVEN AS FAR AS HOW TO HANDLE OUR LIBRARIES AND OUR CLASSROOM. >> FLORIDA EDUCATION COMMISSIONER MANNY DIAZ JUNIOR SAID THIS ABOUT THE LAW ON TWITTER. A TEACHER OR ANY ADULT FACES A FELONY IF THEY KNOWINGLY THROUGH IT EGREGIOUS MATERIALS SUCH AS IMAGES WHICH DEPICTS SEXUAL CONDUCT, SEXUAL BATTERY, THESE THEOLOGY OR SAY TO MASOCHISTIC VIEWS. WHO COULD BE AGAINST THAT? END QUOTE. HOW DO YOU RESPOND? >> I AGREE WITH MR. DIAZ. I WOULD NEVER PUT PORNOGRAPHY IN A STUDENTS HANDS OR WHATEVER. BUT HE IS ONLY REFERRING TO PART OF THE ISSUE HERE. HB 7, THE ANTI WOKE ACT, ALSO LIMITS THE KIND OF INFORMATION THAT WE CAN GIVE STUDENTS, FOR EXAMPLE IF A STUDENT FEELS BAD -- WHEN WE MAKE STUDENTS FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE ABOUT THE CONTENT THAT IS BEING PRESENTED, WHETHER I AM PRESENTED IN A CLASSROOM SITUATION OR IN A BOOK, THEY HAVE ALSO VIOLATED THE LAW. AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS, WE FACE SIMILAR KINDS OF PENALTIES. SO, THE IDEA THAT IT IS ONLY BOOKS ABOUT BEAST DIALLO T AND PORNOGRAPHY AND SO FORTH, IT IS MUCH BROADER THAN THAT, WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING AT. AND FRANKLY, IN ALL MY YEARS OF TEACHING, THOSE THINGS THAT MR. DIAZ IS REFERRING TO, THEY HAVE ALWAYS NOT BEEN ALLOWED. TEACHERS HAVE NEVER GIVEN OUT PORNOGRAPHY AND BEASTIALITY BOOKS TO STUDENTS. THIS IS ONE OF THE ISSUES HERE. THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO MOLD PUBLIC OPINION INTO BELIEVING THAT THESE THINGS ARE SOMEHOW REGULARLY OCCURRING. AND THEY HAVEN'T. >> YOU ARE A HISTORY AND AMERICAN GOVERNMENT TEACHER. HOW HAVE A FLORIDA LAWS REGULATING WHAT STUDENTS CAN BE TAUGHT AN EXPOSED TO IMPACTED YOUR USUAL CURRICULUM? ARE THERE CERTAIN THINGS THAT NOW YOU ARE NO LONGER TEACHING? >> SO FAR, I HAVEN'T TAKEN ANYTHING OUT OF MY CURRICULUM. BUT I WILL SAY THAT I THINK A LOT MORE CAREFULLY ABOUT THE PRESENTATION AND HOW STUDENTS REACT TO IT. FOR EXAMPLE, LAST WEEK I WAS DOING A COUPLE LESSONS ON CIVIL RIGHTS, LOOKING AT THE ALBANY MOVEMENT, BIRMINGHAM, 1963. AND OF COURSE, SOME OF THOSE IMAGES OF THOSE PERIODS ARE -- THEY CAN BE QUITE ACCEPTING UPSETTING. THERE IS DOGS TURNED ON LITTLE GIRLS. THERE'S FIRE HOSES. THERE'S THINGS LIKE THAT. SO, WHEN I'M GOING THROUGH THI, AND I'M TALKING AND SHOWING SOME OF THESE IMAGES, IN THE BACK OF MY MIND, I WAS THINKIN, WELL, IF A STUDENT HERE GETS UPSET ABOUT THESE, HAVE I VIOLATED THE LAW? BY THE INFORMATION, TO ME, IS TOO IMPORTANT TO DENY STUDENTS. SO, I AM GOING TO STILL CONTINUE. >> DAWN FOLDS DON FOULDS WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THAT YOU DO. TEACHERS DON'T GET THE RECOGNITION THAT THEY DESERVE. WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GIVING US YOUR TIME AND INSIGHTS TONIGHT. >> WELL, I THANK YOU FOR HIGHLIGHTING THIS ISSUE. I TH

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