Transcript for ABC News Live: Veteran, trans woman stopped gunman at Colorado LGBTQ club
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HELLO, EVERYONE.
I'M TERRY MORAN TODAY ON ABC
NEWS LIVE, OUR HERO FROM
THE COLORADO SPRINGS
MASS SHOOTING AND SHARING HIS
STORY.
NOW, HOW THE MILITARY VETERAN
SAYS HE HELPED TAKE DOWN
THE SHOOTER.
AS WE ALSO HEAR FROM WAS ABLE
TO BUY A GUN EXCUSE ME.
AND NEW DEVELOPMENTS IN
THE INVESTIGATION INTO
CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS SEIZED
FROM MAR-A-LAGO.
OUR JUSTICE DEPARTMENT
ATTORNEYS AND DONALD TRUMP'S
LAWYERS ARE GOING TOE TO TOE IN
A FEDERAL APPEALS COURT TODAY.
PLUS, THE VIRAL TRIPLE THREAT
CONCERNS WHITE
HOUSE BRIEFING TODAY, JOHN .
BUT WE BEGIN WITH THE LATEST
ON THE MASS SHOOTING IN
COLORADO OVER THE WEEKEND.
AT THE LGBTQ NIGHTCLUB CLUB Q
IN COLORADO SPRINGS.
FIVE PEOPLE WERE KILLED AND AT
LEAST 19 OTHERS WOUNDED.
>> AND FOR THE FIRST TIME,
WE'RE HEARING FROM THE HEROIC
ARMY VETERAN WHO HELPED STOP
THE SHOOTER, EXPLAINING HOW AND
WHY HE TOOK THE GUNMAN DOWN
DESPITE BEING UNARMED HIMSELF.
NOW THE SUSPECT IS IN CUSTODY.
AUTHORITIES ARE EXPECTED
TO CHARGE HIM WITH FIVE COUNTS
OF FIRST DEGREE MURDER AND FIVE
HATE CRIMES.
ABC NEWS MORGAN NORWOOD IS ON
THE GROUND IN COLORADO SPRINGS
WITH THE LATEST.
>> THE MAN WHO AUTHORITIES ARE
CALLING A HERO SPEAKING OUT.
I WASN'T THINKING.
I JUST RAN OVER.
RICHARD FIERRO, A DECORATED
14 YEAR ARMY VETERAN CREDITED
WITH SAVING DOZENS OF LIVES
DURING THE NIGHTCLUB MASSACRE
IN COLORADO'S RINGS.
>> HE'S NOW DESCRIBING
THE MOMENT HE TOOK THE GUNMAN
DOWN IN PULLING DOWN.
I GRABBED THE PISTOL FROM HIM
AND I MIGHT TELL HIM, I DON'T
THINK THIS GUY WAS BIGGER.
AND I JUST KEPT WAILING ON .
>> HE'S TRYING TO GET HIS AMMO,
HIS GUNS, SURVIVORS, GRATEFUL
HE COULD HAVE BEEN A LOT WORSE.
>> I COULD BE NOT ABLE TO BE
HERE AND SPEAK WITH YOU
ON AUTHORITIES NOW HOLDING
THE SUSPECT
ANDERSON LEE ALDRICH ON HATE
CRIMES AND MURDER CHARGES.
AND QUESTIONS ON WHETHER
COLORADO'S RED FLAG COULD HAVE
PREVENTED ALDRIDGE FROM BUYING
A GUN CAMERA FOOTAGE.
I'M SURRENDERING TO POLICE IN
2021 AFTER ALLEGEDLY MAKING
A BOMB THREAT AGAINST HIS
MOTHER.
>> THOSE CHARGES LATER DROPPED
AND HIS RECORD SEALED, WHICH
AUTHORITIES SAY ALLOWED HIM
TO LEGALLY PURCHASE THAT RIFLE
ALLEGEDLY USED IN THE ATTACK.
OVERNIGHT, DOZENS GATHERING
TO HONOR THE VICTIMS.
THE CITY OF COLORADO SPRINGS
PROMISING SUPPORT.
>> WE ARE IMMEDIATELY
EXHIBITING THE RESILIENCE THAT
I WOULD HAVE EXPECTED FROM
OUR COMMUNITY.
WE'RE PROVIDING EMOTIONAL
SUPPORT, SYMPATHY TO THE
VICTIMS, TO WITNESSES THAT WERE
TRAUMATIZED.
>> AND MORGAN NORWOOD JOINS
US NOW LIVE FROM COLORADO
SPRINGS WITH MORE.
MORGAN, WHAT MORE ARE WE
LEARNING ABOUT THIS VETERAN
WHO STEPPED IN, REALLY A HERO
AND THE OTHERS WHO HELPED
SUBDUE THE GUNMAN?
RIGHT.
>> YOU KNOW, INCREDIBLE
BRAVERY, RIGHT?
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SUSPECT
WHO POLICE SAY WAS ARMED
WITH AN AR-15 STYLE RIFLE.
YET RICHARD FIERRO, A COMBAT
VETERAN, WAS SOMEHOW ABLE
TO PULL HIM DOWN BY HIS
PROTECTIVE VEST AND THEN BEGIN
PUMMELING HIM.
HE SPOKE WITH REPORTERS
OVERNIGHT AND SAYS THAT AS HE
WAS BEATING THAT PARTICULAR
SUSPECT, HE WAS YELLING OUT
TO THE REST OF THE CROWD LIKE,
HEY, GO GET HELP.
CALL 911.
GIVING THEM INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW
TO GET TO SAFETY.
AND LOOK, HE WASN'T THE ONLY
ONE .
THERE WERE AT LEAST TWO OTHER
PEOPLE WHO ALSO JUMPED IN
TO HELP.
BUT WE HEARD THE POLICE CHIEF
AND EVEN THE MAYOR SAID
YESTERDAY THAT THIS VIBRO
UNDOUBTEDLY SAVED A LOT
MORE LIVES.
I MEAN, IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE,
BUT THEY SAY THAT THIS SHOOTING
COULD HAVE BEEN A LOT WORSE.
>> TERRY, AND MORGAN,
THE SUSPECT, WAS DUE IN COURT
YESTERDAY FOR HIS FIRST
APPEARANCE, BUT THE D.A. SAYS
EXCUSE ME, HIS INJURIES WERE SO
SIGNIFICANT THAT HE HAD TO STAY
IN THE HOSPITAL.
>> WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT HIS
CONDITION?
YET?
STILL IN THE HOSPITAL FROM WHAT
WE'RE HEARING IS SIGNIFICANT,
SIGNIFICANT INJURIES AS A
RESULT OF THAT TAKEDOWN, WHAT
WE'RE HEARING AS WELL.
SO APPARENTLY HE THAT BEAT HIM
SO BAD THAT HE ENDED UP IN
THE HOSPITAL STILL THERE,
COULDN'T MAKE HIS FIRST COURT
APPEARANCE.
WE ARE TOLD THAT HE WILL BE
CHARGED WITH THOSE HATE CRIME
AND MURDER CHARGES ONCE HE
IS RELEASED AND THEN TAKEN INTO
CUSTODY.
>> TERRY.
AND AS NEW DETAILS COME IN,
WE'RE LEARNING THAT THE SUSPECT
WAS INVESTIGATED IN 2010 FOR
ALLEGEDLY MAKING A BOMB THREAT
AGAINST HIS OWN MOTHER.
>> WE'RE TOLD THOSE CHARGES.
WHAT HAPPENED THERE?
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S THE BIG
QUESTION.
I MEAN, THE BIG QUESTION THAT
COMES OUT OF THAT PARTICULAR
SCENARIO, A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT
TO KNOW HOW HE WAS ABLE
TO LEGALLY BUY A GUN.
AND I MENTIONED IT THERE IN
MY PIECE, BASICALLY, THERE WAS
A BOMB THREAT SITUATION APPEARS
TO BE DOMESTIC INVOLVING HIS
MOTHER, ALSO CHARGED
WITH KIDNAPPING, MAKING THOSE
THREATS.
IT LOOKS LIKE MAYBE THOSE
CHARGES WERE DROPPED.
AND THEREFORE, IN THE STATE OF
COLORADO, HIS RECORD WAS
SEALED, WHICH, OF COURSE,
WOULDN'T SHOW UP ON A
BACKGROUND CHECK FOR GETTING
A GUN.
SO THAT IS THE BIG QUESTION
NOW.
AND THOSE ARE QUESTIONS THAT
WE'RE ASKING AUTHORITIES
HOW THIS WAS ABLE TO HAPPEN.
BUT THAT APPEARS TO BE SORT OF
THE TIMELINE INTO HOW HE WAS
ABLE TO LEGALLY PURCHASE THAT
GUN, THAT RIFLE THAT WAS USED
IN THIS ATTACK, POLICE SAY.
>> RIGHT.
THAT'S THAT'S A HUGE LOOPHOLE.
THERE.
>> SO WHERE DOES
THE INVESTIGATION GO FROM HERE?
YEAH, WE HEARD POLICE TALK
ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY.
YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO TALK
TO ANYONE AND EVERYONE WHO WAS
INSIDE THIS NIGHTCLUB.
I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
CLUB THAT HAD DOZENS OF PEOPLE
INSIDE, EVEN THOUGH IT IS ONE
PARTICULAR CRIME SCENE THAT'S
PARTICULARLY RELATIVELY LESS
COMPLICATED.
IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT CRIME
SCENES.
BUT, LOOK, THEY WANT TO TALK
TO ANYBODY THAT WAS INSIDE.
WHAT DID YOU HEAR?
WHAT DID YOU SEE?
YOU KNOW, IF YOU WERE EVEN
DRIVING AROUND, THEY WANT
TO REALLY PUT TOGETHER
THE TIMELINE AND ULTIMATELY
THE MOTIVE ON THIS.
I GUESS WHAT I'M PARTICULARLY
INTERESTED IN, WE KNOW THAT
THE FBI IS ON THE GROUND HERE
AS WELL.
SO IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE
IF THERE ARE ANY FEDERAL
CHARGES THAT COME OUT OF THIS
HERE.
WE KNOW THAT THAT SUSPECT
WILL FACE THOSE HATE CRIME
CHARGES.
BUT IT'S INTERESTING TO SEE IF
THE FBI OR THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT WILL TRY TO LAY DOWN
SOME OF THOSE FEDERAL HATE
CRIME CHARGES.
>> ALL RIGHT.
IT'S AN IMPORTANT QUESTION
THERE IN THAT IN THAT CASE.
MORGAN NORWOOD IN COLORADO
SPRINGS, THANKS VERY MUCH FOR
BEING WITH US.
>> WELL, THERE ARE FOUR
SEPARATE CASES THAT INVOLVE
FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP,
AND THEY ARE PLAYING OUT IN
FOUR COURTROOMS ACROSS
THE UNITED STATES TODAY AS HE
RAMPS UP HIS THIRD WHITE HOUSE
RUN.
THOSE CASES INCLUDE
THE INVESTIGATION INTO
CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS SEIZED
FROM THE FORMER PRESIDENT'S
MAR-A-LAGO ESTATE IN FLORIDA.
A FEDERAL APPEALS COURT HEARING
TODAY ON ARGUMENTS FROM TRUMP'S
ATTORNEYS AND FROM THE JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT OVER WHETHER TO SHUT
DOWN A SPECIAL MASTERS REVIEW
OF SOME OF THOSE DOCUMENTS.
AND JOINING US NOW FOR MORE ,
ABC NEWS INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER
KATHERINE FATHERS AND ABC NEWS
LEGAL CONTRIBUTOR KIMBERLY
WELI.
SO, KATHERINE, STARTING
WITH THE LEGAL BATTLE OVER
THE SPECIAL MASTER, BUT HE
REMEMBERS THAT MASTER,
A SPECIAL MASTER, SOMEONE
INDEPENDENT VOICE TO REVIEW
THE DOCUMENTS BEFORE
THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT CAN USE
THEM.
THAT WAS CALLED WAR.
THAT WAS ORDERED BY A TRIAL
JUDGE IN THIS CASE.
THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT NOW
ASKING THE APPEALS COURT
TO REMOVE THE SPECIAL MASTER
FROM THE CASE.
HOW IS THAT GOING TO GO?
>> YEAH, LOOK, TERRY, THAT'S
RIGHT.
SO TRUMP'S LAWYERS WILL BE IN
COURT HERE IN THE APPEALS COURT
AND THE 11TH CIRCUIT.
NOW, ESSENTIALLY, WHAT DOJ HAS
BEEN ASKING IS TO REVERSE THIS
WHOLE DECISION ON THE SPECIAL
MASTER IN THE FIRST PLACE.
YOU REMEMBER, THEY DID APPEAL
A PORTION OF THIS HAVING TO DO
WITH THE CLASSIFIED INFORMATION
,CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS THAT DOJ
WON.
NOW, THIS IS ESSENTIALLY TO GET
RID OF THE SPECIAL MASTER
ALTOGETHER.
DOJ WAS AGAINST THIS FROM
THE BEGINNING.
TRUMP'S LAWYERS ARE
ACTUALLY THE ONES WHO REQUESTED
THE SPECIAL MASTER, EVEN THOUGH
ALONG THE WAY THEY'VE TAKEN
ISSUE WITH SOME OF THE SPECIAL
MASTERS DECISIONS.
TRUMP'S LAWYERS HAVE ARGUED,
TERRY, THAT THEY BELIEVE
SOME OF THESE DOCUMENTS THAT
THE FORMER PRESIDENT RETAINED
AT HIS CLUB WERE HIS, EVEN
THOUGH DOJ SAYS THEY WERE
THE PROPERTY AND ARE
THE PROPERTY OF THE EXECUTIVE
BRANCH.
TRUMP'S LAWYERS HAVE ALSO SAID
THAT THEY BELIEVE SOME OF THESE
DOCUMENTS COULD BE PRIVILEGED.
THEIR DEFENSE OF TRUMP'S
HANDLING OF THESE DOCUMENTS HAS
SHIFTED OVER TIME.
BUT THIS HEARING WILL BE
INTERESTING.
IT'S SET TO START IN ABOUT AN
HOUR FROM NOW.
THIS WILL BE THE FIRST TIME,
TERRY, THAT TRUMP'S LAWYERS
AND THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
LAWYERS ARE IN COURT RELATED
TO THE MAR-A-LAGO DOCUMENTS
FOLLOWING AG GARLAND'S
APPOINTMENT OF A SPECIAL
COUNSEL TO OVERSEE THE ENTIRE
INVESTIGATION.
>> RIGHT.
SO THERE'S THIS NOW INDEPENDENT
SPECIAL COUNSEL, INDEPENDENT
PROSECUTOR THAT IS BASICALLY
HANDLING THIS INVESTIGATION.
SO WHAT OTHER CASES TODAY ARE
TRUMP'S ATTORNEYS HANDLING?
>> YES.
SO IN ADDITION TO THIS BIG
ONE , HIS LAWYERS ARE IN
COURTROOMS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
TERRI, IN MULTIPLE DIFFERENT
ARENAS.
RIGHT.
WE HAVE TWO.
THEY'RE IN COURT TODAY AS IT
RELATES TO THE TRUMP
ORGANIZATION, THE CRIMINAL
INVESTIGATION, THE TRUMP
ORGANIZATION AND THE CIVIL
INVESTIGATION.
YOU ALSO HAVE THE COLUMNIST,
EUGENE CAROL.
THERE'S A HEARING IN HER CASE
TODAY, HER DEFAMATION CASE THAT
SHE BROUGHT AGAINST THE FORMER
PRESIDENT .
THIS ALL REPRESENTS THE LEGAL
CLOUDS THAT HAVE BEEN HANGING
OVER HIM FOR A WHILE, BUT
ESPECIALLY AS HE'S LAUNCHED HIS
2020 FOUR ELECTION BID FOR
PRESIDENT .
TRUMP HAS BEEN TOLD BY HIS
ADVISERS THAT IF HE WERE
TO ANNOUNCE AS EARLY AS HE DID
THAT THESE INVESTIGATIONS
WILL JUST GO AWAY.
>> BUT THAT'S CLEARLY NOT
THE CASE.
THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
>> BUT LET ME GO TO KIMBERLY
ON THE QUESTION OF THE SPECIAL
COUNSEL WHO IS NOW HANDLING
THE MAR-A-LAGO DOCUMENTS CASE.
AND AN INVESTIGATION COMING OUT
OF THE JANUARY 6TH INSURRECTION
WAR.
TRUMP'S EFFORTS TO OVERTURN
THE ELECTION CRIMINAL
IS ESSENTIALLY THAT THOSE SEEM
LIKE TWO VERY DIFFERENT CASES.
>> WHAT DO YOU THINK OF
THE SPECIAL COUNSEL'S ROLE HERE
AT AND HOW MUCH TROUBLE IS THE
FORMER PRESIDENT IN?
>> WELL, ON THE MAR-A-LAGO
PIECE, THIS IS WHY I THINK
THE HEARING TODAY THAT
KATHERINE DISCUSSED IN
THE APPEALS COURT RELATING
TO THE SPECIAL MASTER, NOT
SPECIAL COUNSEL, SPECIAL MASTER
REGARDING THE DOCUMENTS
IS IMPORTANT.
THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT
IS SAYING WE CANNOT MAKE
A DECISION AND WE CAN'T MOVE
FORWARD ON POSSIBLE INDICTMENTS
OR EVEN MOVE FORWARD IN
THE INVESTIGATION IF WE CAN'T
ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE DOCUMENTS
THAT WERE SEIZED IN FLORIDA.
>> AND JUST TO BE CLEAR , NO
REGULAR PERSON WALKING DOWN
THE STREET EVER WOULD GET THE
KIND OF EXTRA SPECIAL TREATMENT
DONALD TRUMP IS GETTING THROUGH
THIS SPECIAL MASTER PROCESS IN
NEW YORK .
MY GUESS IS HE WILL LOSE
AND THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT
WILL BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD
WITH THAT INVESTIGATION.
AS FAR AS THE
JANUARY SIX INVESTIGATION
THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR
A COUPLE OF YEARS, WE KNOW,
JACK SMITH HAS BEEN AT
THE HAGUE FOR A WHILE.
HE'S STILL THERE BECAUSE HE HAD
AN INJURY.
IT'S UNLIKELY THAT HE IS BEING
CALLED BACK BY MERRICK GARLAND
IN THIS MOMENT TO JUST QUIETLY
WRAP THINGS UP.
I THINK THE EVIDENCE IS PUBLIC
THAT THERE'S PROBABLY ENOUGH
TO CHARGE JUST FROM WHAT WE
KNOW IN BOTH INSTANCES, INTENT
DOES NOT REQUIRE SOME SMOKING
GUN.
WE KNOW DONALD TRUMP WAS
INTERESTED IN OVERTHROWING
THE ELECTION.
HE'S CONTINUING TO STATE THAT
PUBLICLY.
AND FOR MAR-A-LAGO, WE KNOW HE
TOOK THE DOCUMENTS, DIDN'T
RETURN THEM.
THESE ARE NOT COMPLEX LEGAL
ISSUES, REALLY.
THE QUESTION IS WHETHER A JURY
WOULD DECIDE, NOTWITHSTANDING
THE FACT THAT THIS IS SOMETHING
THAT AMERICA SHOULD MOVE
FORWARD WITH TO CONVICT A FORM
OF A FORMER PRESIDENT THAT'S
HEAVY DUTY STUFF, TERRY,
AND IT'S REALLY SOMETHING THAT
HISTORIANS WILL BE LOOKING AT
FOR DECADES.
>> AND WE JUST CAN'T PREDICT
HOW IT WILL COME OUT.
IT REALLY IS A MONUMENTAL CASE.
AND KIM, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF
WHAT APPEARS TO BE AT LEAST
THE HOPE, IF NOT EVEN PART OF
THE LEGAL STRATEGY OF DONALD
TRUMP, THAT IF HE'S RUNNING FOR
PRESIDENT , HE'S SOMEHOW
SHIELDED FROM THESE
PROSECUTIONS?
>> IS THAT WORK?
WELL, YOU KNOW, THERE'S
SOME THAT SAY THE PRESIDENT
SHOULD BE OUTSIDE THE LAW, BUT
I DON'T THINK LEGALLY THAT'S
GOING TO WORK.
HE'S NO LONGER THE PRESIDENT OF
UNITED STATES.
ARE CERTAIN KID GLOVES THAT
HAPPEN IF HE'S IN OFFICE?
I THINK HE'S GOING TO CONTINUE
TO ARGUE THAT IT'S A WITCH HUNT
.
WE SAW, FOR EXAMPLE, HE FILED
A LAWSUIT IN FLORIDA, BASICALLY
CHALLENGING LETITIA JAMES AND
THE STATE OF NEW YORK'S ABILITY
TO INVESTIGATE HIS
ORGANIZATIONS.
I MEAN, THIS IS A MAN LEGALLY,
IF YOU READ HIS DOCUMENTS
ACROSS THESE VARIOUS CASES,
WHO BELIEVES HE IS OUTSIDE
THE LAW.
AND I THINK THE THE BID FOR
THE PRESIDENCY IS JUST ANOTHER
SORT OF NOTCH IN THAT ARGUMENT.
I DON'T THINK IT WILL WIN AND I
DON'T THINK IT SHOULD WIN.
WE ARE A NATION OF LAWS.
WE ARE NOT A MONARCHY.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY THE THE
REVOLUTIONARIES FOUGHT AND DIED
TO HAVE A THREE PART SYSTEM OF
GOVERNMENT.
NO ONE'S ABOVE THE LAW,
INCLUDING PRESIDENTS, INCLUDING
FORMER PRESIDENTS.
AND I THINK GARLAND UNDERSTANDS
THAT AS A AS A FORMER JUDGE OF
27 YEARS FROM THE D.C. CIRCUIT,
WHICH IS JUST A NOTCH BELOW
THE UNITED SUPREME COURT, HE
UNDERSTANDS THE BROADER
CONSTITUTIONAL IMPLICATIONS OF
THIS PROCESS.
>> AND THANKS, KIMBERLY.
KATHERINE, THE QUESTION IS ,
WILL THE VOTERS UNDERSTAND?
YOU KNOW, TRUMP HAS HAD
A HISTORY OF WHEN HE GETS IN
TROUBLE.
VOTERS RALLY TO THE
REPUBLICAN BASE RALLIES TO HIM.
BUT AFTER THOSE MIDTERM
ELECTIONS, THERE WAS SOME SENSE
THAT REPUBLICAN , CERTAINLY
LEADING REPUBLICANS WERE TRYING
TO MOVE AWAY FROM TRUMP.
HE'S GOING TO GET CHALLENGED IN
THESE PRIMARIES.
WHAT DO YOU THINK THE IMPACT AT
THIS POINT IS OF ALL THESE
INVESTIGATIONS OF THE LEGAL
TROUBLES HE HAS ON HIS
POLITICAL AMBITIONS?
YEAH, LOOK, I THINK IT'S HARD
TO TELL.
I THINK THAT TRUMP HAS ALWAYS
CAPITALIZED WITH THE VOTERS
ON THESE INVESTIGATIONS.
HE'S SAID THINGS LIKE, IT'S
JUST A WITCH HUNT.
IT'S ALL POLITICAL .
HIS CONGRESSIONAL ALLIES HAVE
RALLIED BEHIND HIM IN THAT WAY
IN THE PAST.
SO IN A SENSE, I THINK IT'S TOO
EARLY TO TELL.
AT THE SAME TIME, REPUBLICANS
THAT I'VE BEEN TALKING TO UP
ON CAPITOL HILL CURRENTLY THINK
THAT, YES, THE BASE IS MOVING
AWAY FROM TRUMP.
BUT, TERRY, WE'VE WE'VE SEEN
THIS BEFORE IN THE WAKE OF
OTHER POLITICAL CRISES THAT
TRUMP HAS FACED.
SO I THINK IT'S JUST KIND OF
A WAIT AND SEE.
LET'S ASK ME THAT QUESTION
THREE MONTHS FROM NOW.
>> WE'LL SEE IF IT'S CHANGED.
>> SO TRUE.
CATHERINE FALDO'S KYM WORTHY,
THANKS VERY MUCH.
WELL, WE WANT TO TURN NOW
TO THE SUSPECT CHARGED IN
THE MURDERS OF TWO TEENAGE
GIRLS IN DUMPHY, INDIANA.
THAT'S SUSPECT RICHARD ALLEN
APPEARED TODAY IN COURT WHERE
THE JUDGE SAID SHE'S REVIEWING
ARGUMENTS OVER WHETHER
DOCUMENTS IN THIS CASE SHOULD
BE UNSEALED.
PROSECUTORS ARE FIGHTING
TO KEEP THOSE DOCUMENTS UNDER
SEAL.
IN PART BECAUSE THEY SAY
SOMEONE ELSE COULD BE INVOLVED
IN THE TWENTY SEVENTEEN
KILLINGS OF THE GIRLS IN THIS
CASE.
ABC'S ALEX PEREZ HAS MORE FROM
DELPHI, INDIANA.
>> WELL, WE WERE EXPECTING
TO LEARN MORE ABOUT WHAT
LED POLICE TO SUSPECT RICHARD
ALLEN.
BUT THE JUDGE SAYS HE WILL TAKE
THE MOTION TO UNSEAL DOCUMENTS
INTO CONSIDERATION
AND ANNOUNCEMENT DECISION AT
A LATER DATE.
NOW, 50 YEAR OLD RICHARD ALLEN
WAS ARRESTED LAST MONTH
AND CHARGED WITH KILLING
13 YEAR OLD ABBY WILLIAMS
AND 14 LIBBY GERMAN AT THE TIME
OF THE ARREST.
PROSECUTORS ASKED TO HAVE COURT
DOCUMENTS SEALED AND IT REMAINS
A MYSTERY.
WHAT EVIDENCE EXACTLY
LED POLICE TO ARREST ALLEN.
INVESTIGATORS HAD BEEN HUNTING
FOR THE GIRLS KILLERS SINCE
FEBRUARY OF 2017 WHEN
THEIR BODIES WERE DISCOVERED
NOT FAR FROM THE HIKING TRAIL
WHERE THEY WERE LAST SEEN.
AUTHORITIES HAD PREVIOUSLY
RELEASED THIS IMAGE OF
A SUSPECT THEY SAY WAS FOUND
ON LIBYANS PHONE FOR NEARLY
SIX YEARS.
POLICE SOUGHT THE PUBLIC'S HELP
AND SIFTED THROUGH MORE THAN
70000 TIPS.
ALLEN'S ARREST, THE FIRST BIG
BREAK IN THE CASE.
NOW, PROSECUTORS ARGUE KEEPING
THOSE DOCUMENTS SEALED
IS INTEGRAL TO THE
INVESTIGATION.
THE JUDGE DID NOT SAY WHEN SHE
WILL ANNOUNCE HER DECISION
TERRY.
>> ALL RIGHT, ALEX PEREZ THANKS
FOR THAT FROM INDIANA ON THAT
CASE.
WELL, COMING UP, DR.
ANTHONY FAUCI SPEAKS AT HIS
FINAL WHITE HOUSE BRIEFING.
HIS MESSAGE ON KEEPING YOU
AND YOUR FAMILY SAFE AND
HEALTHY THIS HOLIDAY SEASON
COMING UP NEXT.
ON "ABC NEWS LIVE"
STREAMING LIVE AND FREE ON ALL
PLATFORMS.
>> WELCOME BACK.
THE CDC SAYS MORE THAN HALF OF
THE STATES IN THE COUNTRY ARE
REPORTING VERY HIGH OR HIGH
LEVELS OF FLU LIKE ACTIVITY
AS WE HEAD INTO THE HOLIDAY
SEASON, A NUMBER OF HOSPITALS
ARE ALSO FACING A RISE IN RSV
CASES.
AS COVID-19 CONTINUES TO SPREAD
.
AND TODAY WE HEARD FROM DR.
ANTHONY FAUCI IN WHAT IS LIKELY
HIS FINAL WHITE HOUSE BRIEFING
,A 40 YEAR CAREER BEFORE HE
RETIRES NEXT MONTH.
AFTER THESE DECADES IN
GOVERNMENT SERVICE.
>> MY MESSAGE AND MY FINAL
MESSAGE MAY BE THE FINAL
MESSAGE I GIVE YOU FROM THIS
PODIUM.
IS THAT PLEASE, FOR YOUR OWN
SAFETY, FOR THAT OF
YOUR FAMILY, GET YOUR UPDATED
COVID-19 SHOT AS SOON AS YOUR
ELIGIBLE TO PROTECT YOURSELF,
YOUR FAMILY AND YOUR COMMUNITY.
I URGE YOU TO VISIT VACCINES
NOT JUST TO FIND A LOCATION
WHERE YOU CAN EASILY GET AN
UPDATED VACCINE AND PLEASE DO
IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
>> DR. FAUCI WITH ONE LAST PLEA
FOR PEOPLE TO GET VACCINATED.
JOINING US NOW, ABC NEWS SENIOR
NATIONAL POLICY REPORTER ANNE
FLAHERTY.
>> SO AND ANTHONY FAUCI
TONY FAUCI HIS LAST BRIEFING.
WHAT ARE YOUR TAKEAWAYS FROM
IT?
>> WELL, CERTAINLY, AS WE JUST
HEARD, HE WAS TRYING
TO CONVINCE PEOPLE TO GET THAT
SHOT.
HE WAS CITING NEW CDC DATA THAT
CAME OUT TODAY THAT SHOWS
BY VALENT SHOT IS EFFECTIVE
AGAINST THIS VIRUS.
AND THAT'S WHAT THEY NEED
PEOPLE TO DO TO GET VACCINATED
AHEAD OF THIS WINTER.
TO PREVENT FURTHER SURGES.
YOU KNOW, I THINK WHAT ALSO
IS NOTABLE IN THIS BRIEFING
TODAY WAS THAT HE TALKED
A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HIS LEGACY.
HE SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS
HE ACTUALLY SPENT 54 YEARS IN
GOVERNMENT AND AT THE NIH
AND HE SAID HE LEFT IT
ON THE FIELD.
HE DID WHAT HE COULD.
HE WORKED AS HARD AS HE COULD.
HE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT SOME OF
THE RECOMMENDATIONS DURING
COVID HAD CHANGED.
ALL RIGHT.
SO WE HAVE AN AUDIO TROUBLE
THERE.
BUT WHAT DO YOU SAY ABOUT THAT?
>> AND WHEN HE WAS TALKING
ABOUT THE HIS LEGACY THERE, HE
TALKED ABOUT IF THEY WANT
TO REMEMBER ME, JUDGE ME
RIGHTLY OR WRONGLY.
YOU KNOW, I GAVE IT MY ALL FOR
MANY DECADES.
AND THIS WAS SOMEBODY WHO SPENT
FIFTY FOUR YEARS IN GOVERNMENT
SERVICE, COULD HAVE MADE A LOT
MORE MONEY OUTSIDE OF
GOVERNMENT SERVICE.
I DON'T THINK THAT PEOPLE
REALIZE THAT HOW MUCH YOU
PROBABLY SACRIFICED PERSONALLY
TO DO THAT PARTICULAR JOB.
BUT HE SAID WHAT REALLY
MOTIVATED HIM WAS TO PROTECT
PEOPLE AND TO HELP PEOPLE
GET THE INFORMATION THAT
THEY NEEDED.
SO WE HEARD ABOUT HIM TALK
ABOUT THAT AND SAYING THAT HE
HOPED THAT PEOPLE REALIZED
COVID WAS JUST ONE SMALL SLICE
OF HIS CAREER, BUT THAT HE
WANTED TO PROTECT PEOPLE AND TO
GO OUT AND GET THAT SHOT, YOU
KNOW, AND IT WAS VERY
SURPRISING.
SOMEBODY COVERED FAUCI FOR
A FEW OF THOSE DECADES, NOT
50 FOR, YOU KNOW, HE WAS AN
AMERICAN HERO DURING THE AIDS
CRISIS.
YOU KNOW, REALLY GETTING
THE GOVERNMENT TO PAY ATTENTION
TO A DISFAVORED COMMUNITY,
A COMMUNITY STILL VERY MUCH IN
THE CLOSET.
AT THAT TIME, YOUNG GAY MEN
WERE BEING WERE DYING, YOU
KNOW, IN DROVES.
>> AND FAUCI STEPPED FORWARD
TO SAY IT'S AN ILLNESS, DON'T
CONDEMN PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T.
AND DURING THE EBOLA CRISIS, HE
WAS NEVER VERY CONTROVERSIAL
UNTIL COVID.
AND THEN.
RIGHT.
SO HE'S TALKING TO ONE LAST
EFFORT TO TRY AND PROTECT
THE COUNTRY FROM FROM DISEASE.
THIS TIME THE HIGH LEVEL FLU
LIKE ACTIVITY.
WHAT'S HE TALKING ABOUT ON THAT
ISSUE?
>> RIGHT.
SO WE ASKED DR. FAUCI, WHY ARE
WE SEEING THIS, THE HIGHEST FLU
LEVELS IN A DECADE?
SO I THINK WE'VE GOT A CLIP
HERE, A SOUND CLIP WHERE YOU
CAN TAKE A LISTEN FOR DR. FAUCI
IN TWO QUESTIONS.
5% HOSPITALIZATIONS FOR THE FLU
AT THIS POINT IN THE SEASON OR
THE HIGHEST IN OVER A DECADE.
WHY IS THIS SO BAD THIS YEAR?
AND HOW MUCH PROTECTION IS THE
FLU VACCINE PROVIDING FOR THOSE
WHO HAVE GOTTEN IT?
YEAH, WELL, LET ME ANSWER
THE SECOND QUESTION.
FIRST IS THAT THE VACCINE
IS WELL MATCHED TO THE
CIRCULATING STRAINS.
SO THAT, AGAIN, IS ANOTHER
REALLY GOOD REASON TO TELL
PEOPLE WHAT DR. JHA AND I
AND OTHERS HAVE BEEN SAYING
ABOUT GET YOUR FLU VACCINE,
BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF
THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE GOING
TO BE DEALING WITH THIS WINTER,
THAT WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT
.
>> RIGHT.
SO, TERRY, THAT YOU KNOW, HIM
SAYING THAT THE VACCINE WAS
WELL MATCHED TO THIS YEAR'S FLU
STRAIN.
THAT'S REALLY GOOD NEWS.
THE BAD NEWS, OF COURSE,
IS THAT IT'S AT HIGHER LEVELS.
HE MENTIONED LATER THAT 20 ,
20 , 20 , 21 WERE RECORD LOW
LEVELS.
NOW THAT WE OPENED EVERYTHING
BACK UP, EVERYBODY TAKES
THEIR MATH OFF.
IT'S REALLY NOT A SURPRISE THAT
WE'RE GOING TO SEE THIS THIS
KIND OF REBOUND IS WHAT HE
SAID.
>> AND THERE ARE WAYS TO KEEP
YOURSELF SAFE AND HEALTHY
WITH THOSE SHOTS.
THEY WORK.
>> I CAN ATTEST TO THAT.
AND FLAHERTY, THANKS VERY MUCH.
THANKS.
>> WELL, COMING UP THERE
RUNNETH OVER.
SAUDI ARABIA CAUSING A HUGE
UPSET ON THE SOCCER WORLD
STAGE.
SAUDI ARABIA DEFEATED ARGENTINA
AND ARGENTINA STAR FOR LITTLE
MESSI.
HIS REACTION TO THE DEVASTATING
BLOW AFTER THIS.
>> SO JOIN US .
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SOME OF THE TOP HEADLINES WE'RE
FOLLOWING TODAY.
RESCUE OPERATIONS ARE UNDERWAY
ON INDONESIA'S MAIN ISLAND OF
JAVA.
AFTER A DEVASTATING EARTHQUAKE
THERE KILLED AT LEAST 260
PEOPLE, INJURED MORE THAN
A THOUSAND OTHERS.
OFFICIALS FEAR THAT THOSE
NUMBERS COULD BE FAR WORSE
AS THE FIVE POINT SIX MAGNITUDE
EARTHQUAKE DAMAGED DOZENS OF
BUILDINGS, INCLUDING
A HOSPITAL, A BOARDING SCHOOL
AND OTHER PUBLIC BUILDINGS ARE
STILL DIGGING OUT THERE.
POLICE ARRESTED THE DRIVER
WHO KILLED ONE PERSON
AND INJURED 16 OTHERS AFTER
PLOWING AN SUV INTO AN APPLE
STORE IN MASSACHUSETTS.
THE SUSPECT IS NOW CHARGED
WITH ONE COUNT OF RECKLESS
HOMICIDE BY MOTOR VEHICLE.
THE INCIDENT HAPPENED YESTERDAY
ABOUT 20 MILES FROM BOSTON.
POLICE ARE STILL INVESTIGATING
THIS CASE.
THEY'VE GOT YET TO GIVE ANY
INFORMATION ABOUT A POSSIBLE
REASON OR MOTIVE BEHIND THAT
CRASH.
IF ANY.
>> AND TALK ABOUT A TRIUMPH.
SAUDI ARABIA SOCCER TEAM
STUNNED THE WORLD BY DEFEATING
ARGENTINA SOCCER GIANT AND ONE
OF THE BIGGEST UPSETS IN WORLD
CUP HISTORY.
ARGENTINA SUPERSTAR LIONEL
MESSI REACTED TO THE LOSS
BY HOLDING HIS FACE IN HIS
HANDS AFTER SAUDI ARABIA BEAT
ARGENTINA TWO TO ONE AND GOOD
ON THEM.
>> SAUDI ARABIA, THE UPSET
ALWAYS LOVE AN UNDERDOG.
I'M TERRY MORAN.
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FROM OUR TROOPS OVERSEAS.
GREETINGS FROM CAMP ARIFJAN,
KUWAIT.
THIS IS CHAPLAIN BRAD ANDERSON.
I WANT TO SAY A SPECIAL HAPPY
HOLIDAYS TO ALL OF MY FRIENDS
AND FAMILY BACK HOME.
LOOK FORWARD TO BEING WITH YOU
SOON.
A SPECIAL WAS BRADY OVER HERE
AND HIS REAL 35% BATTERY.
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TANYA AND BOOBOOS BRADY OVER IN
MARION COUNTY, KENTUCKY.
MICHELLE
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