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I'M KYRA PHILLIPS TODAY ON ABC
NEWS.
LIVE BREAKING NEWS FROM
CAPITOL HILL.
THE REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED HOUSE
OFFICIALLY VOTING TO BOOT.
CONGRESSWOMAN ELLEN OMAR FROM
THE FOREIGN AFFAIRS COMMITTEE.
WE'LL TELL YOU WHY AND HOW
SHE'S RESPONDING.
AND NEW VIDEO EVIDENCE IN
THE ALEX MURDAUGH DOUBLE MURDER
TRIAL.
PROSECUTORS PUTTING
THE DISGRACED ATTORNEY AT
THE SCENE OF THE CRIME JUST
MOMENTS BEFORE HIS WIFE AND SON
WERE KILLED.
>> BUT WE DO BEGIN WITH THAT
HOUSE VOTE TO REMOVE
CONGRESSWOMAN ELLEN OMAR FROM
THE FOREIGN AFFAIRS COMMITTEE.
>> THE VOTE JUST ENDED AND THE
GOP LED HOUSE DECIDED TO REMOVE
HER FROM THAT POSITION.
THE DEMOCRAT FROM MINNESOTA
ADDRESSING HER COLLEAGUES AHEAD
OF THIS VOTE , SAYING IT'S
REALLY AN ISSUE OF HER RACE
AND RELIGION IN HER MIND.
>> IT'S ABOUT WHO GETS TO BE AN
AMERICAN, WHAT OPINIONS DO WE
GET TO HAVE?
DO WE HAVE TO HAVE TO BE
COUNTED AS AMERICANS?
THIS IS WHAT THIS DEBATE
IS ABOUT, MADAM SPEAKER.
THERE IS THIS IDEA THAT YOU ARE
A SUSPECT IF YOU ARE AN
IMMIGRANT OR IF YOU ARE FROM
CERTAIN PARTS OF THE WORLD OR
A CERTAIN SKIN TONE OR A MUSLIM
.
JOINING ME NOW, ABC'S JOE
O'BRIEN, WHO IS THERE UP
ON THE HILL.
WATCH THAT VOTE MINUTE
BY MINUTE, ALONG WITH ABC NEWS
WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT
MARYALICE PARKS O.J..
LET'S JUST PUT THIS ALL INTO
PERSPECTIVE.
I GUESS, FIRST OF ALL, WHAT ARE
LAWMAKERS SAYING NOW
ON THE HILL AS WE HAVE BEEN
FINALLY HEARING FROM FOLKS
SINCE THAT VOTE ENDED?
AND LET'S TALK ABOUT WHY
THEY DECIDED TO HOLD THIS
VOTE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
AND JUST THE COMMENTS SHE HAS
MADE IN THE PAST WHERE THERE
WERE LAWMAKERS CONCERNED ABOUT
HER OBJECTIVITY, PARTICULARLY
WHEN IT CAME TO MIDDLE AFFAIRS.
>> YEAH, AND THIS IS THE LAST
DEMOCRAT TO BE REMOVED FROM
A COMMITTEE BY THIS
NEW REPUBLICAN MAJORITY.
IT HAPPENED TO TWO OTHER
DEMOCRATS FROM THE HOUSE
INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE, ADAM
SCHIFF AND ERIC SWALWELL.
KEVIN MCCARTHY, BECAUSE OF
THE WAY THAT COMMITTEE
IS CONSTRUCTED, CAN MAKE THAT
DECISION ON HIS OWN TO REMOVE
THOSE TWO LAWMAKERS FROM
THE COMMITTEE.
>> HE DID THAT, BUT TO REMOVE
HUNT OMAR FROM FOREIGN AFFAIRS
,WHICH IS SOMETHING
KEVIN MCCARTHY AND HOUSE
LEADERSHIP SAID THEY WANTED
TO DO WHEN THEY TOOK POWER.
THEY HAD TO HAVE THIS
VOTE TODAY.
THAT VOTE SUCCESSFUL TODAY
IS WHAT OMAR HAS BEEN BOOTED
OFF FOREIGN AFFAIRS.
REPUBLICANS SAY IT'S BECAUSE OF
PREVIOUS ANTI-SEMITIC COMMENTS.
WHICH AIRLINE?
OMAR HAS APOLOGIZED FOR.
ALSO FOR ALAN OMAR'S CRITIQUES
OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL,
SOMETHING HE HAS PROMISED
TO CONTINUE DOING.
WE'VE HEARD FROM DEMOCRATS
WHO SAY THAT THIS IS ALL
POLITICALLY MOTIVATED
AND DIRECTLY TARGETED AT
REPRESENTATIVE OMAR.
HERE IS WHAT REPRESENTATIVE
ALEXANDER RELAXIUM CORTEZ SAID
ON THE FLOOR EARLIER TODAY.
>> ONE OF THE DISGUSTING
LEGACIES AFTER 9/11 HAS BEEN
THE TARGETING AND RACISM
AGAINST MUSLIM AMERICANS.
THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES OF
AMERICA.
AND THIS IS AN EXTENSION OF
THAT LEGACY CONSISTENCY.
THERE IS NOTHING CONSISTENT
WITH THE REPUBLICAN PARTY'S
CONTINUED ATTACK EXCEPT FOR
THE RACISM AND INCITEMENT OF
VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN OF COLOR
IN THIS BODY.
THIS IS ABOUT TARGETING WOMEN
OF COLOR IN THE UNITED
STATES OF AMERICA.
PASSIONS FLARING ON THE FLOOR
EARLIER.
THERE'S A GROUP OF ABOUT
40 DEMOCRATS.
THEY WERE ALL GATHERED AROUND
REPRESENTATIVE OHMAR.
THEY WERE HUGGING HER.
THEY WERE PATTING HER
ON THE BACK.
THIS WAS IN THE LEAD UP TO THAT
SPEECH.
I CAN SAY REPUBLICANS, THEY ARE
SAYING THEY'RE NOT TAKING NO
MORE OFF OF EVERY COMMITTEE.
THEY'RE NOT BANNING HER FROM
SERVING ON EVERY SINGLE
COMMITTEE, JUST FOREIGN AFFAIRS
SPEAKER KEVIN MCCARTHY SAYING
THAT RIGHT NOW IN A PRESS
CONFERENCE THAT'S RIGHT OVER
MY SHOULDER RIGHT THERE.
SO.
ALL RIGHT.
AND JAY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU
NEED TO CHECK IN ON THAT OR YOU
NEED TO TO LISTEN OR GET A
PRODUCER OVER THERE TO SEE
WHAT'S BEING SAID.
DEFINITELY LET KNOW IT'S LIVE
TELEVISION.
MARY , MEANWHILE, IS THE WHITE
HOUSE SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT
THIS VOTE THAT JUST HAPPENED
TO REMOVE OMAR?
NO NEW STATEMENTS THAT I'VE
HEARD OF YET, BUT I WILL SAY
THERE'S ALSO A BRIEFING GOING
ON RIGHT NOW AS I'M TALKING
TO YOU HERE AT THE WHITE HOUSE.
PRESS SECRETARY IS TALKING
TO REPORTERS.
I'M SURE SHE'S GETTING
QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS.
I ACTUALLY ASKED HER ABOUT THIS
LAST WEEK, WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE
IT WAS HEADED IN THIS
DIRECTION.
AND SHE LOVED NOT
ONLY RESPONDED NOT ONLY TALKING
ABOUT OMAR, BUT LUMPED IT
TOGETHER WITH THE OTHER TWO
THAT JAY WAS MENTIONING
WITH CONGRESSMAN SCHIFF,
AS WELL AS BEING REMOVED FROM
THE INTEL COMMITTEE.
AND SHE SAID THAT ALL THREE OF
THOSE DEMOCRATS IN HER OPINION
IN THE WHITE HOUSE OPINION,
BRING EXPERTISE THAT SHOULD
BE VALUED ON THESE COMMITTEES.
SHE SAID THAT THAT SHOULD NOT
BE POLITICIZED, THAT
THE CLEARLY THE WHITE HOUSE WAS
MAKING THE POINT THAT THE WHITE
HOUSE WAS DISAPPOINTED IN THIS
KIND OF ACTION.
I EXPECT THEY'LL BE RESPONDING
EVEN MORE NOW, TODAY, NOW THAT
THIS VOTE ACTUALLY TAKEN PLACE
AND SHE'S ACTUALLY BEEN
REMOVED.
>> ALL RIGHT.
DEFINITELY MORE TO COME.
ALSO, MARYALICE, WE ARE HEARING
THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
IS IN CONTACT WITH FORMER VICE
PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE'S LAWYERS
ABOUT SCHEDULING A POTENTIAL
SEARCH OF HIS HOME IN INDIANA.
WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT THIS YET
EARLY TALKS?
>> IT SEEMS LIKE RIGHT NOW
THE VICE FORMER VICE
PRESIDENT , MIKE PENCE, SAID
THAT HE DOESN'T THINK THAT
THERE WILL BE ANY
MORE DOCUMENTS THAT WILL BE
FOUND, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE
HE'S WILLING TO COOPERATE IF
THIS IS THE KIND OF ACTION,
THE KIND OF DIRECTION OF
THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE WANTS
TO TAKE.
OF COURSE, THIS IS COMING JUST
A DAY AFTER WE KNOW THAT
THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
SEARCHED PRESIDENT BIDEN'S
HOUSE.
HOW HIS PERSONAL BEACH HOUSE,
HIS VACATION HOME, A SECOND
SEARCH OF PRIVATE RESIDENCE.
IN BOTH INSTANCES, WHAT IT
SEEMS THEY HAVE IN COMMON
IS THAT BOTH OF THESE MEN ARE
WILLING TO COOPERATE.
I MEAN, IT IS REMARKABLE
TO THINK ABOUT A SITTING
PRESIDENT , A FORMER VICE
PRESIDENT , OPENING UP
THEIR HOMES TO INVESTIGATORS
TO LOOK FOR ANY ADDITIONAL
DOCUMENTS.
BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THESE ARE
STILL EARLY TALKS WITH THE
PED'S TEAM.
WE'LL DEFINITELY BE FOLLOWING
THAT.
>> SO, JAY, ANY REACTION UP
THERE ON THE HILL ABOUT THIS
NEW SEARCH THAT'S GOING TO TAKE
PLACE THERE AT PENCE'S HOME
AND ALSO THE FACT THAT THE FBI
DID SEARCH BIDEN'S BEACH HOUSE,
DIDN'T COME UP WITH ANY
DOCUMENTS THUS FAR .
WHATEVER YOU HAVE REGARDING
CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS, LET
US KNOW WHAT WE'VE SEEN.
REPUBLICANS LARGELY SAY THEY'RE
GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THEIR
INVESTIGATIONS, PARTICULARLY
INTO THE BIDEN DOCUMENTS.
VICE PRESIDENT PENCE EARLIER
ON WILL REEVE GOT PRAISE FROM
JAMES COMEY, WHO'S THE CHAIR OF
THE HOUSE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE,
WHO SAID THAT PENCE WAS BEING
MORE TRANSPARENT IN COMMERCE
VIEW THAN PRESIDENT BIDEN WAS.
THAT'S OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING THAT
THE WHITE HOUSE DISPUTES.
BUT HOUSE OVERSIGHT HAS SAID
THAT THEY WILL CONTINUE TO LOOK
INTO THESE BIDEN DOCUMENTS.
HOUSE JUDICIARY, ANOTHER
COMMITTEE, IS DOING THEIR OWN
INVESTIGATION HERE.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE
HEARD, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT
IT'S BEING SIGNALED FROM HOUSE
REPUBLICANS, IS THAT THEY'RE
STARTING TO ON THE OVERSIGHT
COMMITTEE LOOK TO LUMP THIS.
BIDEN DOCUMENTS PROBE IN
WITH ONGOING INVESTIGATIONS
THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN
CONDUCTED BY HOUSE REPUBLICANS
INTO PRESIDENT BIDEN'S SON ,
HUNTER BIDEN.
THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED
TO SIGNAL THAT THEY VIEW THESE
STORYLINES AS CONVERGING IN
SOME WAY.
AGAIN, IT'S UNCLEAR WHAT HOUSE
REPUBLICANS ARE DRIVING THERE
WILL HAVE TO WAIT FURTHER
ON WORDS TO SEE WHAT THEY MEAN
AND WE KNOW THAT WE WILL GET
SOME ANSWERS TO WHAT THEY'RE
DRIVING AT NEXT WEEK BECAUSE
THERE NOW IS A NEW HEARING IN
THE HOUSE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE
OVER THE HUNTER LAPTOP, WHICH
NEWS IS ACTUALLY BREAKING TODAY
ON THAT.
SO WE'RE WORKING THAT.
I KNOW YOU'RE WORKING THAT.
SO IS MARYALICE.
HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE MORE ON
THAT MOVING FORWARD AS THOSE
REPORTS ARE SURFACING.
SURFACING NOW ABOUT ABOUT HIS
LAPTOP, OF COURSE.
ALSO ON THE HILL.
RIGHT.
STILL HAVING FORGOTTEN ABOUT
THE DEBT CEILING.
SO, JAY, PRESIDENT BIDEN DID
MEET WITH SPEAKER
KEVIN MCCARTHY.
SO WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT
THEIR CONVERSATION?
DO THEY COME ANY CLOSER TO SOME
TYPE OF DEAL ?
>> WHAT'S NEXT?
WELL, MCCARTHY JUST RECAPPED
A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THAT
MEETING TO REPORTERS, THAT
PRESS CONFERENCE THAT WAS OVER
MY SHOULDER.
IT'S JUST NOW BREAKING UP AT
THE BEGINNING OF THAT PRESS
CONFERENCE, KEVIN MCCARTHY
SAYS, AND I WANT TO QUOTE HIM
DIRECTLY HERE, WE WILL NOT PASS
A CLEAN DEBT CEILING HERE.
WHAT HE MEANS BY THAT IS A
CLEAN DEBT CEILING IS RAISING
THE DEBT CEILING WITHOUT ANY
OTHER CONCESSIONS, WITHOUT ANY
OTHER CHANGES TO GOVERNMENT
SPENDING, WHICH IS SOMETHING
REPUBLICANS WANT.
REPUBLICANS HAVE SAID
THEY DON'T WANT TO VOTE
TO RAISE THE DEBT CEILING
UNLESS THEY GET BIG CONCESSIONS
FROM THE WHITE HOUSE.
ON SLASHING CERTAIN KINDS OF
GOVERNMENT SPENDING.
SO KEVIN MCCARTHY REITERATING
AGAIN TO REPORTERS THE FIRST
TIME, BY MY COUNT, SINCE HE
EMERGED FROM THAT MEETING
WITH PRESIDENT BIDEN, THAT HE
DOES NOT WANT TO RAISE THE DEBT
CEILING WITHOUT ANY OTHER
SPENDING CONCESSIONS, AGAIN,
PUTTING HIM AT LOGGERHEADS
WITH THE WHITE HOUSE KIRAN.
ALL RIGHT, MARYALICE, THE WHITE
HOUSE SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT
THIS TALK AT ALL.
AND MY GUESS, ONCE AGAIN, THAT
BRIEFING HAPPENING RIGHT BEHIND
YOU.
I KNOW THAT A LOT OF QUESTIONS
WILL BE ASKED, BUT ANYTHING YOU
HAVE PREVIOUS TO THAT,
THE WHITE HOUSE SAYING THAT WAS
A GOOD MEETING, A PRODUCTIVE
MEETING.
AND IT WAS INTERESTING THAT
BOTH SIDES CAME OUT SOUNDING SO
OPTIMISTIC, SO HOPEFUL THAT
SOME KIND OF DEAL WOULD
BE REACHED.
OF COURSE, THE WHOLE IDEA OF
A DEAL IS CONTRARY TO AT
THE WHITE HOUSE HAD BEEN SAYING
UP UNTIL THIS POINT WHERE
THEY DIDN'T WANT ANY
DEAL MAKING ANY NEGOTIATIONS
AROUND RAISING THE DEBT CEILING
.
THEY THINK THAT THAT SHOULD
BE DONE WITHOUT ANY STRINGS
ATTACHED, SHOULD BE DONE ON ITS
OWN, THAT IT'S THE DUTY OF
THE CONGRESS TO PAY ITS BILLS.
SO THE FACT THAT THEY'RE BOTH
TALKING ABOUT CONTINUED TALKS
IS INTERESTING.
FROM THE WHITE HOUSE
PERSPECTIVE.
BUT IT IS EARLY DAYS STILL, NO
ONE IS PUTTING PEN TO PAPER OR
AT LEAST SHOWING US ANY
SEMBLANCE OF AN ACTUAL PLAN OR
ACTUAL DETAILS TO GET THIS
DONE.
>> ALL RIGHT, MARYALICE PARKS
TO BRIAN.
>> GOSH, A LOT HAPPENING TODAY,
ESPECIALLY THERE ON THE HILL.
KEEP US UPDATED.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
AND ALSO, THE FBI HAS
OFFICIALLY LAUNCHED THAT
INVESTIGATION INTO EMBATTLED
CONGRESSMAN GEORGE SANTO'S.
WE WERE TALKING A LOT ABOUT
THIS AND AGENTS ARE NOW LOOKING
INTO HIS ROLE IN THE ALLEGED
GO FENBY SCHEME INVOLVING THAT
VETERAN AND HIS SICK DOG.
SENIOR CONGRESSIONAL
CORRESPONDENT RACHEL SCOTT HAS
THE LATEST ON THIS
INVESTIGATION.
>> WE'VE BEEN FOLLOWING
ABC NEWS LEARNING.
THE FBI IS INVESTIGATING
WHETHER GEORGE SANTO'S WAS
INVOLVED IN AN ANIMAL CHARITY
SCAM.
>> ARE YOU WORRIED ABOUT BEING
PROSECUTED?
>> I HAVE NO CLUE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S ABOUT.
SANTO'S DENYING ANY WRONGDOING
WHEN QUESTIONED BY ABC NEWS.
>> THIS WAS TAKEN.
>> TALK TO YOU MORE THAN HE
TALKED TO ME.
I HAVEN'T BEEN REACHED OUT
BY THEM, SO I CAN'T COMMENT.
BUT NAVY VETERAN RICHARD
ALL-STAFF ALLEGES THE NEW YORK
CONGRESSMAN STOLE
THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS MONEY
THAT SANTOS PROMISED WOULD HELP
HIS DYING SERVICE DOG.
>> I DON'T EVER WANT TO SEE
ANOTHER PERSON, ESPECIALLY
A VETERAN, GO THROUGH SOMETHING
LIKE THIS AGAIN.
>> I'LL STOP TELLING US FEDERAL
AUTHORITIES CONTACT AT HIM
AS PART OF THEIR PROBE, SAYING,
I'M GLAD TO GET THE BALL
ROLLING WITH THE BIGWIGS.
HE SAYS WHEN HIS DOG, SAMPHIRE,
HAD A TUMOR, A VETERINARIAN
TECHNICIAN REFERRED HIM TO A
PET CHARITY RUN BY SANTOS.
BUT ABC NEWS HAS REPORTED THAT
CHARITY NEVER EXISTED.
USCIRF SAYS SANTO'S SUDDENLY
STOPPED RESPONDING TO HIS
MESSAGES, NEVER TURNING OVER
A PENNY.
HIS DOG SANDFIRE PASSED AWAY
LESS THAN A YEAR LATER.
>> I WAS SUICIDAL AGAIN AFTER
SHE WENT.
I NEED A DEAD DOG.
>> SANTOS DENIED HE EVER MET
ALL-STAFF.
HE CLAIMED HE NEVER MET ME
AND I NEVER MET HIM
ON THE RECORD.
>> BUT A SOURCE CLOSE TO THE
FUNMI CONFIRMED THE ACCOUNT
BELONGED TO SANTOS.
SOURCES SAY FEDERAL PROSECUTORS
IN THE NEW YORK
ATTORNEY GENERAL BOTH
INVESTIGATING SANTOS, ARE
LOOKING INTO THE CHARITY, ALONG
WITH PROBES OF HIS CAMPAIGN
FINANCES.
EVEN IF ALLEGATIONS HE STOLE
CHECKS AS A TEENAGER IN BRAZIL
PUT PRESSURE ROAMING ON SANTOS
TO RESIGN.
THE LONG ISLAND REPUBLICAN IS
DEFIANT.
I KNOW THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE
WANT TO CREATE THIS NARRATIVE
THAT I .
I FAKED MY WAY TO CONGRESS,
WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY,
CATEGORICALLY FALSE.
>> AND SENIOR CONGRESSIONAL
CORRESPONDENT RACHEL SCOTT,
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
OF COURSE, WE WILL FOLLOW
EMBATTLED CONGRESSMAN
JORGE SANTOS AND ALL
THE INVESTIGATIONS SURROUNDING
HIM AND HIS BACKGROUND.
>> WELL, COMING UP, TWIST IN
THE ALEX MURDAUGH TRIAL.
>> THE JUDGE HAS RULED TO ALLOW
EVIDENCE FROM HIS FINANCIAL
CRIMES WHEN HE WAS A PRACTICING
ATTORNEY .
HOW THIS COULD CHANGE THINGS
AROUND IN THE TRIAL NEXT
"ABC NEWS LIVE" STREAMING LIVE
AND FREE ON ALL PLATFORMS.
SO GLAD YOU'RE SERVING WITH US.
TODAY.
NOW TO THAT NEW EVIDENCE
AND TESTIMONY IN THE DOUBLE
MURDER TRIAL OF ALEX MURDAUGH
TWO CLOSE FAMILY FRIENDS SAYING
THAT THEY ARE 100% CERTAIN THAT
THEY CAN HEAR MURDOCKS VOICE IN
THE BACKGROUND OF A VIDEO TAKEN
BY HIS SON PAUL, WHICH
PROSECUTORS SAY PLACES
THE DEFENDANT AT THE MURDER
SCENE MOMENTS BEFORE HIS WIFE,
MAGGIE , AND HIS SON WERE
KILLED IN 2020 ONE .
>> NOW, MURDOCH CLAIMED THAT HE
DIDN'T GO TO THE FAMILY'S
KENNELS THAT NIGHT UNTIL HE
FOUND HIS WIFE AND SONS BODIES
AND APPEARED EMOTIONAL IN COURT
AS THE VIDEO WAS PLAYING OUT.
SO LET'S BRING IN
ATTORNEY BRIAN BUCKMEIER,
ABC NEWS CONTRIBUTOR, ALSO HOST
OF LONG NETWORK.
HE'S BEEN BREAKING DOWN MOMENT
BY MOMENT FOR US WITHIN THIS
TRIAL.
SO, BRIAN , LET'S START
WITH THAT.
FIFTY EIGHT SECOND VIDEO
AND WE'LL SHOW IT HERE.
IT'S FROM MURDOCH'S OWN SON .
DIRECTLY CONTRADICTING HIS
STORY.
THESE ARE JUST STRANGERS
TESTIFYING.
I MEAN, ROWAN GIBSON AND
WILL LOVING WERE LIKE SECOND
FAMILY TO THE MURDOCHS.
SO HOW DO YOU THINK THIS IS TO
THE DEFENSE'S CASE NOW?
>> I THINK IT'S VERY BECAUSE
THE ALIBI BY ALEC MURDOCH
SAYING THAT HE'S NOWHERE INSIDE
OF THIS KENNETH MOTON, BUT
ACCORDING TO THE PROSECUTION,
THE TIMING OF THIS VIDEO PUTS
HIM IN CLOSE PROXIMITY, NOT
ONLY TO THE LOCATION, BUT DOG
CAPITAL WHERE THE MURDERS HAD
HAPPENED, ESPECIALLY
PAUL MURDOCH WOULD ALSO CLOSE
IN TIME.
THAT'S THE OPPORTUNITY THAT
MANY PEOPLE THINK OF A MOTIVE
AND OPPORTUNITY.
AND WHEN YOU HAVE TWO WITNESSES
WHO ARE CLOSE TO FAMILY,
FRIENDS TO BOTH THE VICTIM
AS WELL, THE DEFENDANT, FOR
LACK OF A BETTER TERM,
THEY HAVE NO DOG IN THE FIGHT
TO KIND OF LEAN TO ONE SIDE OR
THE OTHER.
SO WHEN THEY SAY IT'S 100%
MURDOCH'S VOICE, YOU'VE GOT
TO TAKE THAT STATEMENT TO THE
BANK.
AND I THINK THE JURY WILL AS
WELL AND USE THAT AGAINST HIM
RIGHT.
AND HERE WE ARE LOOKING AT HIM
BREAKING DOWN YESTERDAY IN
COURT, THERE WAS THAT
ADDITIONAL SNAPCHAT VIDEO
TO RIGHT.
THAT PAUL SENT THE EVENING OF
THE MURDERS THAT ALSO PLAYED
OUT IN THE COURTROOM SHOWING
HIM AND HIS DAD PLANTING TREES
ON THEIR PROPERTY.
AND THAT WAS ABOUT SEVEN P.M.
AND MOST NOTICEABLY, ALEC
IS WEARING DIFFERENT CLOTHING
THAN WHEN LAW ENFORCEMENT THEN
WHAT HE WAS WEARING WHEN LAW
ENFORCEMENT ARRIVED, WHICH
THE STATE SAYS HAPPENED LESS
THAN TWO HOURS LATER.
SO HOW CRITICAL DO YOU THINK
THIS IS ?
TO THE PROSECUTION'S CASE?
>> I THINK IT'S VERY CRITICAL
FOR THE PROSECUTION.
I THINK THE DEFENSE CAN ALSO
USE IT AS WELL.
THE DEFENSE IS GOING TO USE
THAT SNAPCHAT VIDEO OF ALEC
AND PAUL TOGETHER, PLANTING
TREES, LOVING FATHER.
AND THEY'RE GOING TO ASK
THE QUESTION THAT MANY PEOPLE
HAVE BEEN SCRATCHING
THEIR HEADS ABOUT IS WHY WOULD
A FATHER WHO LOVES HIS SON LIKE
THIS TWO HOURS BEFORE A MURDER
BE THE ONE THAT KILLS HIM?
THAT'S STRONG FOR THE DEFENSE.
THE PROSECUTION WILL LOOK AT
THE DIFFERENCE OF CLOTHES, SAY
THAT HE OBVIOUSLY CHANGED.
AND YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE AN
OFFICER WHO SAID THAT DURING
THAT INTERVIEW WITH THE CAR .
HE'S VERY SWEATING, BUT HIS
CLOTHES ARE DRY, SUGGESTING
THAT HE'S MAYBE RUNNING
BACK AND FORTH, MAYBE VERY
EXCITED, VERY FLUSTERED, BUT
HIS CLOTHES DON'T HAVE ANY
BLOOD SPLATTER.
HIS CLOTHES DON'T HAVE ANY
SWEAT ON THEM.
SO WHY DID ALEX MURDAUGH DECIDE
TO CHANGE HIS CLOTHES BETWEEN
THE TIME THAT HE WAS WITH HIS
WIFE AND SON AND AFTER
THEIR MURDER?
THAT'S GOING TO LEAD TO A
REASONABLE PERSON COMING UP
WITH THE IDEA THAT HE MURDERED
THEM AND HE TRIED TO COVER IT
UP.
>> RIGHT.
AND THEN THERE WAS THIS OTHER
PRETTY BIG UPDATE FROM TODAY IN
COURT, AND THAT WAS THE JUDGE
AGREEING TO HEAR THE EVIDENCE
THAT THE STATE HAS TO TO SHOW
MOURDOCK ALLEGEDLY STEALING
MONEY FROM HIS CLIENTS
AND FAMILY LAW FIRM.
>> WE'VE BEEN TALKING A LOT
ABOUT HIS FINANCES AND THAT HE
WAS NERVOUS ABOUT THAT BEING
EXPOSED, TAKING MONEY FROM HIS
CLIENTS ILLEGALLY.
HOW BIG OF A DEAL DO YOU THINK
THIS IS GOING TO BE NOW THAT
THIS IS GOING TO BE ENTERED?
>> SO THE FIRST TWO PARTS WE
JUST TALKED ABOUT, THAT'S
THE OPPORTUNITY.
NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
THE MOTIVE.
YOU DON'T NEED IT TO PROVE
A CRIMINAL CASE, BUT IT HELPS
A LOT.
I'M NOT SURE IF GOING TO COME
IN.
SO FAR I'VE BEEN LISTENING
TO IT AND ALL I CAN TELL YOU
IS ALEX MURDAUGH MORE LIKELY
THAN NOT EMBEZZLED OR
MISAPPROPRIATED THE FUNDS FROM
HIS CLIENTS WHILE I WAS A LAW
FIRM.
BUT I'M NOT HEARING THAT
CONNECTION TO THE MURDER.
I'M NOT HEARING.
YES, HIS WIFE HEARD ABOUT IT
AND SHE WAS GOING TO REPORT HIM
TO THE AUTHORITIES.
AND THAT'S WHY HAD
ALEX MURDAUGH OR HE WAS GOING
TO TAKE THE MONEY AND SKIP OUT
OF TOWN AND LEAVE HIS WIFE
AND SON AND HIS WIFE AND SON
KNEW ABOUT IT.
UNLESS THE PROSECUTION CAN
CONNECT IT TO SOMETHING
INVOLVING THESE DOUBLE MURDERS,
I DON'T SEE WHY THE JUDGE
WILL LET IT IN.
>> ALL RIGHT, BRIAN BUCKMIRE,
WE WILL CONTINUE TO FOLLOW IT.
AND WE ALWAYS APPRECIATE YOU
TO BE WITH US AND JUST SORT OF
BREAKING IT ALL DOWN.
THANKS, RYAN .
COMING UP, NEARLY FOUR HUNDRED
THOUSAND PEOPLE IN TEXAS
WITHOUT POWER AS THAT ICE
STORM JUST BLANKETS THE STATE.
MORE STRAIGHT AHEAD. HOW MUCH
PERCENT OF THE TIME.
>> 40%.
ALL RIGHT.
WELCOME BACK.
WE ARE NOW TAKING YOU TO NEW
ZEALAND, A COUNTRY FULL OF
STUNNING NATURAL BEAUTY
AND HOME TO THOUSANDS OF
GLACIERS.
>> BUT THOSE GLACIERS ARE
MELTING PRETTY QUICKLY BECAUSE
OF RISING TEMPERATURES.
ROBIN ROBERTS ACTUALLY GOT
TO TRAVEL THERE FOR A FIRSTHAND
LOOK AND SPECIAL ASSIGNMENT
TO GET AN UP CLOSE LOOK AT
NEW ZEALAND'S SPECTACULAR YET
VANISHING GLACIERS.
HELLO.
GOOD MORNING.
GOOD MORNING.
SO THIS IS A BIRD WE'RE GROWING
UP IN SYDNEY IS WE SUITED UP
TO SOAR THE BLUE SKIES FOR
A BIRD'S EYE VIEW?
>> IT'S WHAT SCIENTISTS CALL
A CRITICAL PART OF THE CLIMATE
CRISIS, TAKING OFF TO WITNESS
THE DANGEROUSLY THIN ICE OUT OF
THIS WORLD EXPERIENCE.
WE DIDN'T FACTOR FOR
THE BALLOON THAT WE DON'T
CHARGE.
YOU GO DAVID MUIR.
WHOA.
HOUSTON, WE HAVE LIFTOFF.
OH, MY GOODNESS.
ALL RIGHT.
>> THE EXTREME TERRAIN NESTLED
AT THE TOP OF NEW ZEALAND'S
SOUTHERN OUT A BUSTLING TOURISM
HUB AT ITS EVERY DAY OFFICE FOR
LONG TIME, GLACIER PILOT
MICHAEL CLARKE.
MICHAEL, YOU GOT A PILOT SINCE
2000.
FOR A START OF FLYING IN 2004.
I'VE SEEN LOTS OF THE THINGS
THAT I GUESS MOST PEOPLE COULD
ONLY DREAM OF.
SO MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.
SOAKING IN THE MAJESTIC
MOUNTAINS.
SO UNTOUCHED, JUST SO NATURAL.
CRYSTAL BLUE LAKES.
OH, MY GOODNESS.
AND BREATHTAKING WATERFALLS.
WOW.
ARE LARGER THAN LIFE TREK
REVEALING THE IMPACT OF
A CHANGING CLIMATE.
IT LOOKS LIKE A WATERFALL, BUT
THAT'S ACTUALLY FALLING OFF,
SMASHING IT.
SO YOU COULD SEE THAT JUST
DISAPPEARING ARISE FROM
YOUR POINT OF VIEW.
HOW HAVE YOU SEEN THE GLACIERS
CHANGE OVER THE YEARS?
I'VE SPENT CONSIDERABLE TIME
THINKING ABOUT IT.
I FLY AROUND THEM EVERY DAY
AND I EVA PILGRIM I CAN TELL
YOU I'VE WATCHED GLASSES
COMPLETELY DISAPPEAR THROUGHOUT
MY CAREER.
BEHIND THE STUNNING LANDSCAPE
LIKE CRACKS AND CREVICES,
THE ICE MELTING AT A RECORD
RATE.
WE MR. GRIFFIN IS ABOUT
THREE THOUSAND LEFT OF THEM,
VERY SMALL AND WE'VE BEEN
LOSING.
I REALLY RAPIDLY ACCELERATING
THE RAPID RETREAT, CREATING
A LONG TERM THREAT TO LOCALS
WHO DEEPLY RELY ON BUSTLING
GLACIER TOURISM AND RELAXIUM
ON ROUGHLY BEING HERE SOMEWHERE
AT THAT TIME PERIOD.
>> CLIFF GOODWIN HAS DEDICATED
HIS LIFE TO GUIDING GLACIER
TOURS.
JUST A DECADE AGO, THE GRIM
REALITY SETTING IN THE POPULAR
FRANZ JOSEF GLACIER, DEEMED NO
LONGER SAFE TO ACCESS BY FOOT.
>> YOU COULDN'T WALK
ON THE GLACIER ANYMORE.
WE HAD TO STOP FLYING IN.
A HELICOPTER IS A BIT SAD FOR
US .
LIKE WE SAY, A LOT OF THE BASE
IS DISAPPEARING.
>> SO, CLIFF, LIKE MANY MADE
A PIVOT WITH HIS WIFE, TORC
BY HIS SIDE.
THE COUPLE NOW RUNS GLACIER
VALLEY ECO TOURS, TAKING
VISITORS ON NATURE EXPEDITIONS
NEAR THE FOOT OF THE ICE.
>> THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE
RECEDED SO MUCH IN SUCH A SHORT
AMOUNT OF TIME IS NOT NATURAL.
EVEN IF IT'S NOT RIGHT IN
YOUR BACKYARD, IT'S STILL GOING
TO AFFECT YOU.
>> LOCAL SCIENTIST
BRIAN ANDERSON STUDIES THEM
INSTALLING CAMERAS
ON THE RIVERS ICE TO MONITOR
DRASTIC CHANGES IN REAL TIME.
ALL OF THE WORK THAT I'VE DONE
OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS HAVE
SHOWN THAT IF THE TEMPERATURE,
THE FUTURE DEPENDS VERY MUCH
ON THE TEMPERATURE OVER 6000
FEET ABOVE SEA LEVEL, IT WAS
TIME TO EXPERIENCE THE GLACIERS
CONDITIONS FIRSTHAND.
>> SO, MICHAEL, WHERE ARE WE
ABOUT TO LAND AND WHAT SHOULD
I BE PREPARED TO SEE?
SO WE'RE APPROACHING A CLOCK
GLACIER.
IT'S GOING TO BE BRIZE.
YOU NEED TO SARNIES A SOAK UP
THE PEACE, REQUIRE THE SERENITY
,SERENITY.
>> NOW, STICKING OUR LANDING,
A SURREAL MOMENT TO TAKE IN
THE SHEER MAGNITUDE ON TOP OF
THE ICE.
>> WOW.
WELL, YOU HEARD US .
>> THANK YOU, MICHAEL.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
GLASS OFFICE.
>> HE GOT HERE PRETTY GOOD.
OH, MY GOSH.
THIS IS I AM A GLACIER.
>> YOU ARE.
AND IT'S QUITE SOFT.
EVEN FOR THIS TIME OF
THE MORNING.
LOOK AT THAT.
YES, JUST A LITTLE BIT AFTER
9:00 AM.
AND IT'S WARM.
MICHAEL, PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN
WATCHING, AS MANY OF THEM HAVE
NOT BEEN TO NEW ZEALAND.
THEY'VE NEVER BEEN ON A
GLACIER.
WHY IS IT IMPORTANT TO YOU THAT
PEOPLE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON ?
HERE?
WELL, THEY ARE DISAPPEARING
QUICKLY, LIKE A FEW YEARS AGO,
THE GLACIER FINISHED THERE.
AND IT'S JUST BEEN SORT
GRADUALLY RETREATING.
I BRING TOURISTS FROM ALL
AROUND THE WORLD TO APPRECIATE
AND LOOK AT THESE BEAUTIFUL
GLACIERS.
BUT ONCE THEY'RE GONE,
OBVIOUSLY, WE WON'T BE ABLE
TO DO THAT ANYMORE.
>> ONCE UPON A TIME, YOU WOULD
ACTUALLY WALK TO THE GLACIER.
NOW, THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN SEE
IT IS BY CHOPPER.
IT'S OVERSTATED THROUGHOUT
THE MOUNTAIN.
IT'S BASICALLY SURROUNDED
BY CLIFFS.
AND YOU'VE GOT TO A PRETTY
INTREPID MOUNTAINEER TO HIKE UP
HERE, I WOULD SAY.
SO THE MAGIC CARPET A LOT
MORE CONVENIENT.
>> IT WAS A THRILL FOR YOU.
IT IS OUR TRIP WRAPPING
WITH BRIGHT SUN , SOFT ICE
AND EXTRAORDINARY VIEWS AS WE
TAKE OFF IN OUR MAGIC CARPET.
>> WHAT A WAY TO START THE WEEK
.
AND OUR THANKS
TO ROBIN ROBERTS.
THAT WOULD BE A REALLY NICE
WORKING ENVIRONMENT, WOULDN'T
IT?
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