Transcript for ABC News Live: Police piece together timeline in Colorado LGBTQ club shooting
ONE NEWS SOURCE.
EVERYONE, I'M TERRY MORAN.
TODAY ON ABC NEWS LIVE, A HERO
FROM THE COLORADO SPRINGS
MASS SHOOTING IS SHARING HIS
STORY.
TODD ANT MILITARY VETERAN SAYS
HE HELPED TAKE DOWN THE SHOOTER
.
AS WE ALSO HEAR FROM SOME OF
THE SURVIVORS AND THE
NEW QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY
THE SUSPECT WAS ABLE TO BUY
A GUN.
AND NEW DEVELOPMENTS IN
THE INVESTIGATION INTO
CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS SEIZED
FROM MAR-A-LAGO.
HOW JUSTICE DEPARTMENT
ATTORNEYS AND DONALD TRUMP'S
LAWYERS ARE GOING TOE TO TOE IN
A FEDERAL APPEALS COURT TODAY.
PLUS, THE VIRAL TRIPLE THREAT
RAISING HEALTH CONCERNS AHEAD
OF THE HOLIDAYS.
BUT DR. ANTHONY FAUCI TOLD
REPORTERS ABOUT IT AT HIS FINAL
WHITE HOUSE BRIEFING TODAY.
>> WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN
WITH THE LATEST ON THE MASS
SHOOTING IN COLORADO OVER
THE WEEKEND AT THE LGBTQ
NIGHTCLUB CLUB Q IN COLORADO
SPRINGS, WHERE FIVE PEOPLE WERE
KILLED AND AT LEAST 19 OTHERS
WOUNDED.
FOR THE FIRST TIME, WE'RE
HEARING FROM THE HEROIC ARMY
VETERAN WHO HELPED STOP
THE SHOOTER, EXPLAINING HOW AND
WHY HE TOOK THE GUNMAN DOWN
DESPITE BEING UNARMED.
>> HIMSELF.
>> WELL, NOW THAT SUSPECT IS IN
CUSTODY AND AUTHORITIES ARE
EXPECTED TO FORMALLY CHARGE HIM
WITH FIVE COUNTS OF FIRST
DEGREE MURDER.
AND FIVE HATE CRIMES.
ABC NEWS MORGAN NORWOOD IS ON
THE GROUND IN COLORADO SPRINGS
AND JOINS US NOW WITH MORE.
SO, MORGAN, THIS INVESTIGATION
,WHERE ARE THEY GOING?
WHAT DO WE KNOW AT THIS POINT?
YEAH, LET'S BEGIN WITH THE
SUSPECT.
AS WE KNOW,
ANDERSON LEE ALDRICH STILL IN
THE HOSPITAL WITH WHAT'S BEING
DESCRIBED AS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT
INJURIES STEMMING FROM THAT
TAKEDOWN THAT YOU MENTIONED AT
THE TOP OF THE SHOW FROM ARMY
VETERAN WHO , AS THOSE BULLETS
WERE FLYING, PULLED THE SUSPECT
DOWN BY HIS PROTECTIVE VEST
AND BEGAN PUMMELING HIM UNTIL
POLICE ARRIVED.
BUT AS FAR AS THE WORK HERE
ON THE GROUND, TERRY,
AUTHORITIES ARE STILL, OF
COURSE, COMBING THROUGH
THE SCENE.
YOU SEE THE CRIME SCENE TAPE OF
HIM.
YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT OF
THE POLICE PRESENCE HERE.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE COMBING
THROUGH THE SUSPECT'S
BACKGROUND.
AND SO THIS IS PRETTY
SELF-CONTAINED.
THEY ARE REALLY DESPERATE
TO TALK WITH ANYBODY,
SURVIVORS, VICTIMS, EVEN FOLKS
WHO WERE DRIVING BY .
LOOK, THEY REALLY WANT TO PIECE
TOGETHER THIS TIMELINE AND MORE
THAN ANYTHING, FIGURE OUT
A MOTIVE IN THIS ATTACK.
WE ALSO KNOW THAT THE FBI
IS INVESTIGATING AS WELL.
COLORADO STATE.
THERE ARE HATE CRIME CHARGES
FOR ALDRIDGE, BUT IT WILL BE
INTERESTING TO SEE IF
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WILL LAY
DOWN ANY FEDERAL HATE CRIME
CHARGES.
>> SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT
WE'RE KEEPING AN EYE ON AS
WELL.
TERRY, AND MORGAN, WE ARE
HEARING MORE DETAILS FROM
EYEWITNESSES, REALLY SURVIVORS
WHO WERE AT CLUB Q WHEN
THE SHOOTING TOOK PLACE.
MANY OF THEM SAY THAT THAT CLUB
WAS LIKE A HOME TO THEM.
AND DESPITE THE FACT THAT
THEY'RE TRAUMATIZED, THEY HOLD
THAT PLACE.
PRECIOUS JOSHUA THURMON, FOR
EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE SURVIVORS
OF THE SHOOTING.
AND WE HEARD FROM HIM.
>> TAKE A LISTEN TO WHAT HE
EXPERIENCED AS A BLACK KID, YOU
KNOW, TABOO TO BE GETTING SO
COMING HERE.
THIS IS ONE OF THE FIRST PLACES
THAT I ACCEPTED TO BE WHO I AM
SUPPOSED TO BE, OUR SAFE
SPACE AND THE COMMUNITY
SHOULDN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH
SOMETHING LIKE THIS JUST FOR
US TO COME TOGETHER.
IT WAS IT WAS SO SCARY.
I HEARD SHOTS BROKEN GLASS BODY
.
IT WAS HOW WHY THE UNSEEN
INJURIES?
MORGAN, YOU'VE BEEN IN THAT
COMMUNITY NOW REPORTING SINCE
THE SHOOTING HAPPENED.
WHAT ARE YOU HEARING FROM
SURVIVORS, VICTIMS, LOVED ONES?
>> YEAH, TERRY, THAT THAT SOUND
WAS JUST SO GRIPPING FOR
THE VICTIMS.
IT WAS HORRIFIC.
I MEAN, THEY TALKED ABOUT
THE CARNAGE, BUT THEY ALSO
TALKED ABOUT THE COURAGE
AS WELL.
LISTEN, ONE MAN SAYING THAT
AS HE WAS SHOT, HE WAS SHOT IN
THE LEG AND THE THIGH, BUT ALL
HE COULD THINK ABOUT WAS
HELPING OTHERS.
HE SAYS THAT HE PULLED OFF HIS
COAT AND BEGAN SHIELDING
ANOTHER WOMAN AS THOSE BULLETS
WERE RINGING OUT.
SO WE SEE STORIES LIKE THAT OF
RESILIENCE.
BUT I HAD A LITTLE BIT OF TIME
THIS MORNING TO STOP BY THE
MEMORIAL AND THE GRIEF IS SO
PALPABLE, YOU CAN FEEL IT IN
THE AIR.
BUT WHAT WAS REALLY STRIKING
TO ME, I SAW, YOU KNOW, FAMILY
AFTER FAMILY LAYING DOWN CARDS
AND CANDLES AND MOURNING THOSE.
BUT AGAIN, WHAT WAS REALLY
STRIKING, I SAW THREE YOUNG
GIRLS.
THEY LOOKED LIKE THEY WERE
TRIPLETS, THREE YEARS OLD,
MAYBE THREE OR FOUR, PRESUMABLY
WITH THEIR MOTHER.
SHE WAS TAKING THEM BY THE
HAND AND WALKING THEM DOWN
THE STREET.
TO THAT MEMORIAL AND EXPLAINING
TO THEM WHAT EXACTLY WHAT WHAT
WAS GOING ON .
AND THOSE ARE THE HARD
CONVERSATIONS THAT SO MANY
LOVED ONES ARE HAVING TODAY
BEHIND EVERY SINGLE FACE OF
THOSE WHO WERE SHOT AND THOSE
WHO WERE KILLED.
THERE ARE FAMILY MEMBERS
WHO ARE DEALING
WITH IMMEASURABLE GRIEF
AND IMMEASURABLE HEARTBREAK.
BUT FOR THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY AT
LARGE , WE HEARD FROM THEM
SAYING THAT THEY ARE DEFIANT,
THEY ARE GOING TO BOUNCE
BACK FOR THEM, BOUNCE BACK FROM
THIS, AND THEY ARE NOT GOING
TO BE TROUBLED WITH FEAR.
THEY'RE GOING TO STAND IN
THE FACE OF THIS ADVERSITY.
AND SO MANY PEOPLE WHO WE KNOW
HATE IS ON THE RISE AND THEY
ARE NOT GOING TO BE MOVED
BY THAT STORY.
>> AND THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE DO
TOGETHER.
IN THE FACE OF HATE AND OF THIS
KIND OF SORROW AND PAIN THAT
THEY'RE SUFFERING BECAUSE OF
THIS SUSPECT.
NOW, THIS GUY WAS INVEST GAITED
IN TWENTY , TWENTY ONE FOR
ALLEGEDLY MAKING A BOMB THREAT
AGAINST HIS OWN MOTHER.
WE'RE TOLD CHARGES DROPPED
THERE.
WELL, COLORADO DOES HAVE
RED FLAG LAWS.
HOW WAS HE STILL ABLE TO CARRY
THE WEAPONS INTO THAT CLUB?
>> YEAH, THAT'S A BIG QUESTION
THAT SO MANY ARE ASKING.
THIS AFTERNOON.
TERRY, I WANT TO RUN DOWN
A LITTLE BIT OF THE TIMELINE
AS FAR AS THAT PARTICULAR
ARREST.
ACCORDING TO AUTHORITIES,
ALDRIN'S MOTHER REPORTED
BACK IN JUNE OF 2020 ONE THAT
HER SON WAS THREATENING HER
WITH SOME HOMEMADE BOMBS
AND EXPLOSIVES.
POLICE DID NOT FIND ANY
EXPLOSIVES WHEN THEY WENT OUT
TO THE SCENE, BUT, OF COURSE,
HE WAS TAKEN INTO CUSTODY
AND CHARGED WITH KIDNAPPING
AND MENACING.
NOW, WE ARE TOLD THAT THOSE
CHARGES WERE DROPPED
AND THEREFORE HE DIDN'T
NECESSARILY HAVE A RECORD FOR
THAT.
SO IT WOULDN'T HAVE NECESSARILY
SHOWED UP ON A BACKGROUND CHECK
FOR GETTING THAT PARTICULAR
RIFLE IN WHICH POLICE SAY WAS
USED IN THIS ATTACK.
BUT THE BIG QUESTION NOW IS ,
YOU KNOW, FROM WHAT SO MANY
PEOPLE ARE SAYING IS , ARE
THE RED FLAG LAWS PROTECTING?
ARE THEY STRONG ENOUGH?
AND SO THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS
THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM PEOPLE
HERE ON THE GROUND.
TERRY, LOTS OF QUESTIONS STILL
TO BE ANSWERED.
>> MORGAN NORWOOD IN COLORADO
SPRINGS, THANKS.
>> WELL, FOUR SEPARATE CASES
INVOLVING FORMER
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP ARE
PLAYING OUT IN FOUR SEPARATE
COURTROOMS ACROSS THE COUNTRY
TODAY.
AS HE RAMPS UP HIS THIRD RUN
FOR THE WHITE HOUSE.
THOSE CASES INCLUDE
THE INVESTIGATION INTO
CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS SEIZED
FROM THE FORMER PRESIDENT'S
MAR-A-LAGO ESTATE IN FLORIDA.
A FEDERAL APPEALS COURT IN THAT
CASE IS HEARING ARGUMENTS TODAY
FROM TRUMP'S ATTORNEYS AND FROM
THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT OVER
WHETHER TO SHUT DOWN A SPECIAL
MASTERS REVIEW OF SOME OF THOSE
DOCUMENTS.
WELL, JOINING US NOW FOR MORE ,
ABC NEWS INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER
KATHERINE FATHERS AND ABC NEWS
LEGAL CONTRIBUTOR CHANNA LLOYD.
SO LET ME BEGIN WITH YOU.
THIS LEGAL BATTLE OVER
THE SPECIAL MASTER WHO WAS
APPOINTED BY THE TRIAL JUDGE IN
THIS CASE, THE TRUMP LAWYERS
WENT TO A TRIAL JUDGE AND ASKED
FOR A TIME OUT IN
THE INVESTIGATION SO THAT
A SPECIAL MASTER REVIEW,
THE DOCUMENTS TAKEN FROM
MAR-A-LAGO, MAKE SURE THAT NO
PRIVILEGES THAT DONALD TRUMP
MIGHT BE ABLE TO CLAIM.
>> SO WHAT'S GOING ON IN
THE APPEALS COURT TODAY?
YES, THIS APPOINTMENT THAT WAS
MADE BY JUDGE AILEEN CANNON AT
THE REQUEST OF TRUMP'S LAWYERS
HAPPENED ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO
HERE.
DOJ HAS APPEALED A CERTAIN
ELEMENT OF THIS ALREADY, WHICH
THEY HAVE ALREADY WON, WHICH
HAD TO DO SPECIFICALLY WITH THE
CLASSIFIED MARKINGS
ON THE DOCUMENTS, THE DOCUMENTS
MARKED AS CLASSIFIED.
NOW, THIS DOJ APPEAL WAS FOR
THE APPOINTMENT OF A SPECIAL
MASTER.
THEY APPEALED THE WHOLE RULING
.
GENERALLY SPEAKING, WHAT DOJ
IS SAYING IS THAT THERE'S NO
NEED FOR A SPECIAL MASTER HERE.
THEY'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH
ALL THE DOCUMENTS.
THEY SAY TRUMP HAS THIS CLAIM.
HE'S CLAIMING THAT THESE
DOCUMENTS THAT WERE SEIZED FROM
HIS CLUB ARE HIS, THAT
THEY COULD BE COVERED
BY PRIVILEGE IN SOME WAY.
THAT'S WHAT TRUMP'S LAWYERS ARE
SAYING.
DOJ IS SAYING, NO, THAT'S NOT
THE CASE.
THESE ARE IN THE POSSESSION.
THESE ARE DOCUMENTS THAT BELONG
TO THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH.
THEY ARE NOT HIS THEY DON'T
VIOLATE HIS RIGHTS IN ANY WAY.
AND DOJ ESSENTIALLY IS ACCUSED
,THIS JUDGE THAT YOU
MENTIONED, OF INTERFERING IN
THEIR CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION
TERRY.
>> WELL, LET ME GO TO SHANNA
ON THAT SHOW, ON THIS QUESTION.
OF A SPECIAL MASTER REVIEWING
THE DOCUMENTS.
IT'S CONFUSING TO SOME PEOPLE,
I GUESS, WHAT THE JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT IS SUGGESTING HERE.
CERTAINLY WHAT CRITICS ARE
SAYING IS THAT THIS JUDGE
APPOINTED BY DONALD TRUMP WAS
KIND OF A HOLMER REFEREE,
SOMEBODY WHO WAS BENDING OVER
BACKWARDS TO TAKE CARE OF
DONALD TRUMP'S INTERESTS.
IS THAT FAIR?
IS THIS COMMON KIND OF SPECIAL
MASTERS IN CASES LIKE THIS?
>> TYPICALLY, WE DON'T SEE
SPECIAL MASTERS APPOINTED
TO OVERSEE THE SORT OF
DOCUMENTS THE DOJ HAS THIS
ABILITY TO GATHER THIS
INFORMATION, AND THAT'S
HOW THEY'RE COMING UP
TO DETERMINE IF THEY'RE GOING
TO HAVE AN INDICTMENT COME
DOWN.
TYPICALLY, IT'S NOT OVERSEEN
BY SPECIAL MASTERS, BUT WE HAVE
THIS ISSUE OF THEM BEING
CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS THAT'S
ADDING A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF
CONFIDENTIALITY TO THESE
DOCUMENTS.
AND PART OF THAT IS WHETHER OR
NOT THEY ACTUALLY WERE
CLASSIFIED OR WERE HIS PERSONAL
DOCUMENTS.
SO IT ADDS A DIFFERENT LAYER OF
COMPLEXITY TO THIS PARTICULAR
INVESTIGATION.
>> RIGHT.
SO THAT'S BEING SORTED OUT IN
THE APPEALS COURT.
CATHERINE , THIS IS A BUSY DAY
FOR DONALD TRUMP'S LAWYERS.
>> WHAT OTHER CASES ARE HIS
ATTORNEYS HANDLING TODAY?
>> YES, HIS ATTORNEYS
WILL APPEAR IN COURTROOMS AS IT
RELATES TO THE CIVIL
INVESTIGATION INTO THE TRUMP
ORGANIZATION AND THE CRIMINAL
INVESTIGATION INTO THE TRUMP
ORGANIZATION.
YOU HAVE AN EX COLUMNIST,
EUGENE CARROLL, APPEARING IN
COURT FOR A HEARING IN HER
DEFAMATION LAWSUIT AND ALSO SAY
A BIT RELATED TO THE CASE THAT
WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT.
TRUMP'S LAWYERS ALSO FILED IN
COURT WITH THIS JUDGE, JUDGE
AILEEN CANNON, ASKING HER
TO UNSEAL THE FULL AFFIDAVIT.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED A LOT
ABOUT THAT, THE REDACTED
AFFIDAVIT.
THEY SAY TRUMP HAS A RIGHT
TO THAT, TOO.
SO LOTS OF LEGAL BATTLES
PLAYING OUT FOR TRUMP ALL OVER
THE COUNTRY.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> AND SHAWNA, FINALLY
ON THE SPECIAL COUNSEL, NOT
THE SPECIAL MASTER, THAT'S
THE SPECIAL COUNSEL,
A PROSECUTOR APPOINTED BY THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL, MERRICK
GARLAND, TO LOOK AT BOTH THIS
MAR-A-LAGO CASE INVOLVING
CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS AND THE
INVESTIGATION INTO THE JANUARY
6TH INSURRECTION.
WHETHER DONALD TRUMP'S EFFORTS
TO OVERTURN THE ELECTION VERGED
ON THE CRIMINAL, BECAME
CRIMINAL, BECAME CRIMES.
SO HOW CHALLENGING IS THAT FOR
THE SPECIAL COUNSEL AND SHOULD
HIS APPOINTMENT CONCERN TRUMP'S
ATTORNEYS?
I MEAN, THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE
THAT THIS IS KEPT ABOVEBOARD,
THAT ALL RULES ARE FOLLOWED
AND THAT THEY'RE FOLLOWING
PROCEDURES.
RIGHT.
SO THEY'RE LOOKING TO APPOINT
SOMEONE WHO CAN OVERSEE ALL OF
THIS LITIGATION BECAUSE A LOT
OF THEM HINGE ONE ON THE OTHER.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE
IS CERTAIN RULINGS THAT HAVE
CERTAIN EFFECTS AND THEY WANT
TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE
LOOKING AT THE OVERARCHING
PICTURE, BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE
LOOKING AT IS A FORMER SITTING
PRESIDENT WHO IS GOING THROUGH
THESE NUMBERS OF CRIMINAL
AND CIVIL LAWSUITS.
THE EFFECT OF THAT ON HIS
ABILITY TO RERUN IS ALSO
SOMETHING THAT'S OF QUESTION.
>> ALL RIGHT.
GET INVOLVED.
NATIONAL.
LLOYD, THANKS VERY MUCH.
ON A BUSY DAY IN THE TRUMP
LEGAL SCENE.
THANKS SO MUCH.
>> WELL, COMING UP, DR.
ANTHONY FAUCI SPEAKS AT HIS
FINAL WHITE HOUSE BRIEFING.
HIS MESSAGE ON KEEPING YOU
AND YOUR FAMILY SAFE AND
HEALTHY THIS HOLIDAY SEASON.
THAT'S COMING UP NEXT.RIME.
20/20 NOW STREAMING
ON "ABC NEWS LIVE".
WELCOME BACK TO THE CDC SAYS
MORE THAN HALF OF THE STATES IN
THE COUNTRY ARE REPORTING VERY
HIGH OR HIGH LEVELS OF FLU LIKE
ACTIVITY.
AS WE HEAD INTO THE HOLIDAY
SEASON.
NO HOSPITALS ARE ALSO FACING
A RISE IN RSV CASES AS COVID-19
CONTINUES TO SPREAD.
TODAY, WE HEARD FROM DR.
ANTHONY FAUCI IN WHAT IS LIKELY
HIS FINAL WHITE HOUSE BRIEFING
BEFORE HE RETIRES NEXT MONTH.
AFTER DECADES OF GOVERNMENT
SERVICE.
MY MESSAGE AND MY FINAL MESSAGE
MAY BE THE FINAL MESSAGE I GIVE
YOU FROM THIS PODIUM IS THAT
PLEASE, FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY,
FOR THAT OF YOUR FAMILY,
GET UPDATED.
COVID-19 SHOT AS SOON AS YOU'RE
ELIGIBLE TO PROTECT YOURSELF,
YOUR FAMILY AND YOUR COMMUNITY.
I URGE TO VISIT VACCINES NOT
JUST TO FIND A LOCATION WHERE
YOU CAN EASILY GET AN UPDATED
VACCINE AND PLEASE DO IT
AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
>> ONE MORE PLEA FROM DR. FAUCI
TO GET YOUR SHOTS THERE.
ABC NEWS ALEX PEREZ.
AND ABC NEWS MEDICAL
CONTRIBUTOR DR PATEL JOINS
US NOW.
SO, ALEX , TONY FAUCI HIS FINAL
BRIEFING.
WHAT ARE YOUR TAKEAWAYS?
WHAT DOES THE FUTURE HOLD FOR
HIM?
>> WELL, TERRY, SO, I MEAN,
I THINK THE BIG TAKEAWAY WAS
THAT THIS IS LIKELY TO BE
THE LAST TIME THAT WE SEE DR.
FAUCI FROM THAT PODIUM.
AFTER MORE THAN 50 YEARS OF
GOVERNMENT SERVICE.
>> BUT ALSO, I MEAN, LISTEN,
HIS CAREER IS LARGELY DEFINED
FROM THE LAST THREE YEARS
AS BEING THE MOUTHPIECE FOR
HOW WE'VE KIND OF NAVIGATED
THIS PANDEMIC.
AND HE'S REPEATED A MESSAGE
TODAY THAT WE'VE HEARD HIM
REPEAT FROM FROM THAT PODIUM
FOR SO MANY DIFFERENT BRIEFINGS
OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.
ONCE AGAIN, CHAMPIONING THESE
VACCINES.
HE ALSO TALKED ABOUT SOME OF
THE NEW CLINICAL EFFICACY DATA
THAT CAME OUT THIS MORNING.
JUST ONCE AGAIN, A PROVING
THE VACCINE'S EFFECTIVENESS,
ESPECIALLY AS WE HEAD INTO THIS
WINTER TIME WHERE A LOT OF
PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE
GATHERED.
BUT AS FOR YOUR SECOND
QUESTION, WHAT DR. FAUCI
IS GOING TO BE DOING NEXT,
WE'VE HEARD THAT HE MIGHT WORK
ON A BOOK OR TWO.
WE'VE HEARD THAT HE HAS AN
INTEREST IN TEACHING, BUT HE
IS ALSO STRESSED THAT THIS
IS NOT HIM RETIRING.
IT'S JUST FIGURING OUT WHAT'S
GOING TO BE NEXT OUTSIDE OF
GOVERNMENT SERVICE.
MAYBE SOME R AND R. HE'S EARNED
IT.
DR PATEL.
SO HOLIDAY SEASON COMING UP
IS GOING TO BE GATHERING MANY
OF US WITH FRIENDS AND FAMILIES
FOR THANKSGIVING.
WHAT ARE HEALTH OFFICIALS
RECOMMENDING?
>> WHAT ARE THE CONCERNS
AND WHAT HE RECOMMENDING?
WELL, TERRY, A LOT OF THIS
HASN'T REALLY CHANGED FROM WHAT
WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT OVER
PAST WINTERS.
IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE THAT
YOU HAVE THOSE UPDATED SHOTS.
AS ALEX JUST MENTIONED, DR.
FAUCI MENTIONED, WE HAVE
NEW DATA SHOWING THAT
THE BIOVAIL AND OMICRON
SPECIFIC BOOSTER IS ACTUALLY
EFFECTIVE AT REDUCING ILLNESS.
AND IT'S GOING TO BE EVEN
MORE EFFECTIVE AT REDUCING
SEVERE ILLNESS, WHICH IS THE
GOAL.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE
OUT THERE GETTING THEIR FLU
VACCINATIONS THAT THEY HAVEN'T
ALREADY.
AND WHAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT
THING THAT PEOPLE NEED
TO REMEMBER IS THAT IF YOU HAVE
ANY TYPE OF COLD OR FLU
SYMPTOM, YOU SHOULD STAY AWAY
FROM OTHERS.
I KNOW IT'S TEMPTING TO RING
HOLIDAY GATHERINGS AND YOU
YOURSELF SHOULD BE TEMPTED
TO STAY HOME.
WE HOSTED A FRIEND'S GETTING
THERE WAS A LOT OF GOOD DISHES
THERE, BUT THE VIP OF
THE FRIENDS GIVING OUR TWO
FRIENDS WHO STAYED HOME BECAUSE
THEY WERE SICK.
THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
>> WE ARE SEEING SURGES ACROSS
THE COUNTRY.
WE DO NOT WANT TO SEE THEM
GET WORSE.
SO JUST BE EXTRA, EXTRA AWARE
AND CAUTIOUS.
AND DOCTOR, IS THE RISE IN RSV
CASES IN THE FLU, TOO?
SO WE GOT THIS KIND OF TRIPLE
WHAMMY GOING OUT.
>> THERE ARE THE PARTICULAR AGE
GROUPS IN OUR FAMILIES THAT WE
SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT
THEIR ARTERY.
>> YOU WITH RSV, WE
HISTORICALLY WILL SEE CHILDREN
UNDER THE AGE OF SIX MONTHS
WERE EXTREMELY HIGH RISK,
INCLUDING THOSE KIDS
WHO HAVE UNDERLYING HEART OR
LUNG.
THESE ARE KIDS WHO ARE
PREMATURE.
THAT IS WHAT IS FILLING UP
THESE HOSPITALS.
WE HAVE ABOUT 80% OF PEDIATRIC
BEDS FILLED RIGHT NOW.
BUT MAKE NO MISTAKE, AT RSV
IS ALSO POTENTIALLY SEVERELY
SERIOUS IN OLDER ADULTS,
AS WELL AS ADULTS
WHO HAVE UNDERLYING MEDICAL
CONDITIONS.
IN FACT, RIGHT NOW, ACCORDING
TO THE CDC, THE HOSPITALIZATION
RATE OF ADULTS IS NINE TIMES
HIGHER THAN IT WAS A FEW YEARS
AGO.
AND WE HAVE SIMILAR RISK GROUPS
AS WELL FOR INFLUENZA UNKOVIC.
SO KEEP AN EYE OUT.
EVEN IF YOU HAVE MILD SYMPTOMS
,SOMEONE YOU PROTEST, YOU'RE
GOING TO GET INFECTED MAY NOT.
>> HMM.
GOOD ADVICE.
WELL, BE CAREFUL AND HAVE
A GREAT THANKSGIVING
ALEX PEREZ.
DR PATEL, THANKS VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU.
YOU TOO.
WELL, COMING UP, WE'RE MARKING
NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH
WITH AN IN-DEPTH LOOK AT
A SUPREME COURT CASE THAT
INVOLVES INDIGENOUS CHILDREN.
IT'S A FASCINATING DILEMMA IN
THIS CASE THAT THE COURT
WILL RESOLVE.
THAT'S UP
"ABC NEWS LIVE" CRIME
WITH LINSEY DAVIS STREAMING
WEEKNIGHTS.
WELCOME BACK.
AS WE HONOR NATIVE AMERICAN
HERITAGE MONTH, WE'RE TAKING
A CLOSER LOOK AT A MAJOR CASE
BEFORE THE SUPREME COURT OF
THE UNITED STATES THAT INVOLVES
INDIGENOUS CHILDREN.
A LANDMARK LEGAL BATTLE
IS UNFOLDING OVER A DECADES OLD
LAW THAT REQUIRES STATES TO
GIVE PREFERENCE TO INDIGENOUS
FAMILIES WHEN PLACING NATIVE
AMERICAN CHILDREN WHO ARE UP
FOR ADOPTION OR FOSTER CARE.
>> DEVIN DWYER HAS OUR STORY.
THERE.
>> A BLENDED AMERICAN FAMILY IN
A FIGHT TO STAY TOGETHER.
SO WELL IN DECEMBER, WE HAVE
A COURT HEARING AGAIN FOR
THE ADOPTION.
OUR SON, SISTER.
AND IF WE LOSE, SHE WOULD
BE TAKEN AWAY.
>> DR. JENNIFER BRACKEEN, AN
ANESTHESIOLOGIST, AND HER
HUSBAND, CHAD, A CIVIL ENGINEER
AND STAY AT HOME DAD, ARE
PARENTS TO TWO
BIOLOGICAL CHILDREN AND TWO
NATIVE AMERICAN SIBLINGS.
THEY FOSTERED FOR YEARS.
>> AND HOW MUCH DO THEY KNOW
ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON ?
WE HOPE VERY LITTLE CULTURAL
CONSIDERATIONS ARE A CHALLENGE
FOR EVERY ADOPTIVE FAMILY.
NO MATTER WHAT RACE THEY ARE OR
WHAT RACE THEIR CHILDREN ARE
EVEN SLEEPING FOR NATIVE FOSTER
CHILDREN.
>> THOSE CULTURAL
CONSIDERATIONS ALSO HAVE
A LEGAL DIMENSION.
SINCE 1978, THE INDIAN CHILD
WELFARE ACT, OR IQUA, HAS SET
RULES FOR WHO CAN ADOPT NATIVE
AMERICAN KIDS, GIVING
PREFERENCE FIRST TO IMMEDIATE
FAMILY, THEN A MEMBER OF
THE CHILD'S TRIBE, THEN TO AN
UNRELATED TRIBE.
BEFORE POTENTIAL PARENTS
WHO ARE NON-NATIVE AND THE
INTEREST IN A YOUNG TRIBAL
CITIZEN, THE CHILD AND STAYING
WITH HER TRIBE IS A HIGH
INTEREST.
>> IT'S AN ANSWER TO THE FORCED
REMOVAL OF HUNDREDS OF
THOUSANDS OF NATIVE CHILDREN
FROM THEIR TRIBES OVER
GENERATIONS.
SEPARATED FROM THEIR FAMILIES
AND PLACED IN GOVERNMENT RUN
BOARDING SCHOOLS.
OR CHRISTIAN CHURCHES THROUGH
THE 1960S.
THE TRIBES SAY IQUA HAS BEEN
CRITICAL TO KEEPING
THEIR CULTURES ALIVE
AND PROTECTING
THEIR SOVEREIGNTY
AS INDEPENDENT NATIONS.
>> IF YOU START TO REMOVE
THE NEXT GENERATION OF ANY
SOCIETY, YOU REALLY START
TO ERODE THAT SOCIETY.
THE INDIAN CHILD WELFARE ACT
AND QUITE A STOUT LAW TO GO UP
AGAINST.
THE JUSTIFICATION TO DEVIATE
FROM THAT LAW IS A PRETTY HIGH
BAR TO OVERCOME TO FOSTER
FAMILIES LIKE THE BROOKINS
IQUA, ISABEL PRIOR TO ADOPTION
OF CHILDREN THEY'VE NURTURED
AND LOVED FOR MOST OF
THEIR YOUNG LIVES.
IN AN APPEAL TO THE U.S.
SUPREME COURT.
THE COUPLE SAYS THE LAW IS NOT
ONLY UNREASONABLE BUT
UNCONSTITUTIONAL FOR HIM
TO JUST GET TAKEN AWAY AND MOVE
TO SOMEONE HE'S NEVER MET
BEFORE WHO IS NOT RELATED TO IT
,DIDN'T SEEM LIKE THE RIGHT
THING TO DO.
>> AS HIS MOM BY GIVING
ADOPTION PRIORITY TO NATIVE
FAMILIES OVER WHITE FAMILIES.
>> THEY SAY THE LAW
DISCRIMINATES ON THE BASIS OF
RACE, WHICH DEFINES AN INDIAN
CHILD AS A CHILD WHO IS EITHER
A TRIBAL MEMBER OR COULD
SOMEDAY BECOME A TRIBAL MEMBER
BASED ENTIRELY ON BIOLOGICAL .
THE BIRKINS MOVE TO ADOPT
THEIR SEVEN YEAR OLD SON AFTER
FOSTERING HIM FOR MORE THAN
A YEAR.
BUT DESPITE APPROVAL FROM HIS
BIOLOGICAL FAMILY, THE NAVAJO
NATION CHALLENGED THE ADOPTION
IN COURT UNDER IQUA.
>> AFTER A TWO YEAR LEGAL
BATTLE, THE TRIBE BACKED DOWN.
BUT NOW THE FAMILY IS FIGHTING
TO ADOPT HIS YOUNGER SISTER,
THEIR FOUR AND A HALF YEAR OLD
FOSTER DAUGHTER, WHO STATE
OFFICIALS WERE PREPARED
TO PLACE WITH A NATIVE FAMILY
NEARLY 1000 MILES AWAY BECAUSE
THE LAW IN THE STATE SYSTEM,
CERTAINLY WE WOULD HAVE BEEN
THE FIRST CALL.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, YOU'RE
SAYING IF SHE HAD NOT BEEN
NATIVE AMERICAN, THE FIRST CALL
WOULD HAVE BEEN TO YOU?
>> 100% NEITHER THE NAVAJO
NATION NOR THE CHILDREN'S
RELATIVES RESPONDED TO ABC NEWS
REPEATED REQUESTS FOR AN
INTERVIEW.
BUT IN COURT DOCUMENTS,
THE TRIBE ARGUES THAT IQUA
PROTECTS THE BEST INTERESTS OF
INDIAN CHILDREN AND PROMOTES
THE STABILITY AND SECURITY OF
INDIAN TRIBES AND FAMILIES.
THEY ARGUE THE LONG STANDING
ADOPTION PREFERENCES ARE NOT
BASED ON RACE, BUT ON POLITICAL
QUALIFICATIONS FOR TRIBAL
CITIZENSHIP.
I AM MY ANCESTORS WILDEST
DREAMS.
>> THIS IS PUNCTUATED AUTUMN
ADAMS, A MEMBER OF THE YAKAMA
NATION, IS AMONG DOZENS OF
FORMER FOSTER YOUTH ASKING
THE SUPREME COURT TO UPHOLD
THE LAW.
>> BEING AMERICAN INDIAN IS NOT
A RACIAL MATTER.
IT'S A POLITICAL MATTER WHERE
MEMBERS OF TRIBAL NATIONS THAT
ARE SOVEREIGN NATIONS, SHE
SAYS.
>> SHE'S AN EQUAL SUCCESS
STORY.
AFTER LANDING IN
THE WASHINGTON STATE FOSTER
SYSTEM AT NINE YEARS OLD WHEN
HER FATHER DIED BY SUICIDE.
>> MY MOTHER AT THAT TIME WAS
ADDICTED TO ALCOHOL AND SOME
HARD DRUGS.
IMMEDIATELY AFTER THAT,
ACTUALLY , SHE SPIRALED IN
A REALLY DARK HOLE RIGHT BEFORE
AUTUMN AND HER YOUNGER BROTHER
JOHN WERE TAKEN INTO STATE
CUSTODY AND LATER PLACED
WITH TRIBAL RELATIVES.
>> WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF
THEY HAD NOT FOUND A RELATIVE
TO TAKE YOU?
>> MY ASSUMPTION IS THEY WOULD
HAVE SPLIT ME AND JOHN UP,
POTENTIALLY WITH A NON-NATIVE
MORE THAN LIKELY WITH A
NON-NATIVE FAMILY.
THERE ARE NOT A LOT OF NATIVE
FOSTER NATIVE CHILDREN ARE FOUR
TIMES MORE LIKELY THAN WHITE
CHILDREN.
TO BE PLACED IN FOSTER CARE IN
THIS COUNTRY MORE THAN A DECADE
AGO TO SEVEN PERCENT OF NATIVE
FOSTER KIDS WERE PLACED
WITH OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS.
TODAY, IT'S UP TO 38 PERCENT,
AN IMPROVEMENT.
EXPERTS TRIBUTE TO EQUA TRIBAL
FAMILIES KNOW WHAT THEY'RE
DOING.
>> YES, THERE ARE CHALLENGES,
BUT WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN
THE CENTURY BEFORE IQUA WAS
JUST SO DETRIMENTAL TO TRIBAL
COMMUNITIES.
>> AFTER TURNING 19 , AUTUMN
WON CUSTODY OF HER TWO YOUNGER
SIBLINGS AND SAYS
THEIR PERSONAL BOND AND FAMILY
TRADITIONS SHOW WHY IQUA
MATTERS.
>> EVEN TO THIS DAY, WE ARE
WORKING ON LEARNING
OUR LANGUAGE AND WE STILL
CONTINUE TO PRACTICE
OUR TRADITIONAL TEACHINGS.
BUT THE BIRKINS INSIST EQUAL
OPPORTUNITY TO ADOPT DOESN'T
HAVE TO COME AT THE EXPENSE OF
CULTURE.
>> WE DO SHARE A LOT OF COMMON
VALUES WITH THE NATIVE
AMERICANS AND WE'RE TAKING CARE
OF EACH OTHER.
THE EMPHASIS ON FAMILY AND THE
EMPHASIS ON ELDERS AND CHILDREN
OF THOSE IN NEED.
>> THE NATION'S 574 TRIBES SAY
THE STAKES IN THE BRACKEEN CASE
ARE BIGGER THAN ONE FAMILY.
IF THE SUPREME COURT STRIKES
DOWN AS DISCRIMINATION
ON THE BASIS OF RACE, THEY SAY
IT COULD UPEND DECADES OF
INDIAN LAW TREATING TRIBES
AS INDEPENDENT
POLITICAL NATIONS.
>> IF OUR SOVEREIGNTY
IS ERODED, BECAUSE OF THIS
CASE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE
A SETBACK THAT WILL TAKE
GENERATIONS TO REPAIR IF WE CAN
REPAIR IT AT ALL.
>> THE BRACKEEN SAY THEIR FOCUS
REMAINS ON THEIR FAMILY, HOPING
THE NATION'S HIGHEST COURT
STRIKES A BALANCE BETWEEN
RESPECT FOR TRIBES AND YOUNG
CHILDREN.
WHO HAVE ALREADY BEEN THROUGH
SO MUCH ATTACHMENT IS ONE OF
THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS.
AND WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT
CULTURE IS NOT IMPORTANT.
WE DO BELIEVE CULTURE
IS IMPORTANT.
BUT IT'S NOT THE MOST IMPORTANT
THING.
>> A CASE WITH SUCH HIGH STAKES
AND WE THANK DEVIN DWYER FOR
THAT REPORT.
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