Transcript for ABC News Live: FBI searches Biden’s beach house for more classified documents
ONE NEWS SOURCE.
HI, I'M DIANE MACEDO.
TODAY ON "ABC NEWS LIVE", WE
HAVE BREAKING NEWS.
PRESIDENT BIDEN'S ATTORNEY SAYS
THE FBI IS SEARCHING HIS BEACH
HOUSE.
WHAT IT MEANS FOR
THE INVESTIGATION INTO
THE PRESIDENT'S HANDLING OF
CLASSIFIED INFORMATION.
>> THE DEADLY ICE STORM ON
THE MOVE, 60 MILLION AMERICANS
ACROSS 22 STATES ARE FACING
A BRUTAL WINTER BLAST.
CARS ARE SPINNING OUT IN
DANGEROUS CONDITIONS AND EVEN
PLANES ARE GROUNDED HERE WHERE
THE STORM IS HEADED NEXT.
AND HOW THE EXTREME COLD,
HOW LONG THE EXTREME COLD
WILL LAST.
THE FAMILY OF TERRY NICHOLS
IS SET TO PLAY THE YOUNG FATHER
TO REST TODAY.
AND WHAT WE'RE LEARNING ABOUT
THE DISCIPLINARY PAST OF
THE FORMER POLICE OFFICERS
CHARGED WITH HIS MURDER.
AND WE'RE CELEBRATING BLACK
HISTORY MONTH WITH A LOOK AT
LAS VEGAS, SEE HOW BLACK
PERFORMERS MADE THE CITY
THE ENTERTAINMENT DESTINATION.
IT IS TODAY AND PAVED THE WAY
FOR OTHERS.
WE BEGIN WITH BREAKING NEWS IN
THE INVESTIGATION INTO
PRESIDENT BIDEN'S HANDLING OF
CLASSIFIED INFORMATION.
WE'RE NOW LEARNING THE FBI
IS SEARCHING THE PRESIDENT'S
BEACH HOUSE IN REHOBOTH BEACH,
DELAWARE.
ABC'S JAY O'BRIEN JOINS ME LIVE
FROM CAPITOL HILL WITH MORE.
>> JAY, WHAT DO WE KNOW RIGHT
NOW?
YEAH, DIANE , GOOD MORNING.
WE THAT SEARCH BEGAN THIS
MORNING.
CAMERAS CAUGHT VIDEO OF SUVS
PULLING UP TO THAT REHOBOTH
BEACH BEACH HOUSE EARLIER
TODAY.
JUST A FEW HOURS AGO.
AND NOW WE KNOW THAT THAT
SEARCH IS ONGOING, ACCORDING
TO PRESIDENT BIDEN'S PERSONAL
ATTORNEY , THAT THEY ARE
WORKING WITH THE FBI.
THEY SAY WE WILL HAVE FURTHER
INFORMATION AT THE CONCLUSION
OF TODAY'S SEARCH.
THEY SAY THAT THIS SEARCH
IS FURTHER EVIDENCE OF
THEIR COOPERATION WITH THAT
ONGOING INVESTIGATION INTO
THOSE CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS.
THAT HAVE BEEN FOUND NOW AT
THE PENN BIDEN CENTER
AND ANOTHER BIDEN DELAWARE HOME
.
>> BUT IT'S PART OF
A CONSISTENT DRIP, DRIP, DRIP,
AS YOU KNOW, SEARCHES THAT
CONTINUE TO ARISE IN THIS CASE
.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FBI
IS SEARCHING FOR THERE BEYOND
CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS.
WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE ANY
CERTAIN KIND OF INTELLIGENCE
THAT SHOWS THEM THAT THERE ARE
DOCUMENTS THERE.
BUT AGAIN, THIS IS JUST ANOTHER
OF THE CONTINUED SEARCHES IN
THIS CASE.
AS WE KNOW, THE FBI SEARCHED
THE PENN BIDEN CENTER IN
NOVEMBER.
THAT IS INFORMATION CAME
TO LIGHT YESTERDAY.
AND WE NOW KNOW THAT THE FBI,
OF COURSE, ALSO SEARCHED
PRESIDENT BIDEN'S OTHER HOME IN
DELAWARE EARLIER THIS MONTH.
>> SO HOW DOES THIS AFFECT
THE ONGOING INVESTIGATIONS?
>> WELL, IT'S CERTAINLY IT
SHOWS YOU THAT THE DOJ
INVESTIGATION IS PROGRESSING,
RIGHT?
THIS IS ANOTHER ELEMENT OF
THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE'S
INVESTIGATION.
THAT'S WHY THE FBI
IS CONDUCTING THE SEARCH.
BUT ALSO, THERE'S AN IMPACT
HERE ON CAPITOL HILL BECAUSE
THERE ARE AT LEAST TWO
REPUBLICAN HOUSE INVESTIGATIONS
INTO THESE CLASSIFIED
DOCUMENTS.
AND WE'VE HEARD REPUBLICANS SAY
THAT THEY ARE GOING TO PROBE,
AMONG OTHER THINGS,
TRANSPARENCY.
WHY WAS AN INITIAL SEARCH OF
THE PENN BIDEN CENTER
BY PRESIDENT BIDEN'S PERSONAL
ATTORNEYS?
AND THEN THE FBI ONLY REVEALED
TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE MONTHS
AFTER THE SEARCH?
WE KNOW THAT IS A QUESTION THAT
HOUSE REPUBLICANS ARE PROMISING
THEY ARE GOING TO LOOK INTO.
SO THE CONSISTENT DRIP, DRIP,
DRIP OF INFORMATION OF
SEARCHES, THE PROGRESSION OF
THIS DOJ INVESTIGATION IS NOT
JUST SOMETHING THAT THE WHITE
HOUSE IS WATCHING, NOT JUST
SOMETHING THAT THE SPECIAL
COUNSEL IN THIS CASE
IS OBVIOUSLY PAYING ATTENTION
TO , BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S
HAVING AN IMPACT HERE
ON CAPITOL HILL.
HOUSE REPUBLICANS SAYING
THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP LOOKING
INTO THIS AS WELL.
>> NOW, THIS COMES AS PRESIDENT
BIDEN IS SET TO MEET WITH HOUSE
SPEAKER KEVIN MCCARTHY TODAY
TO TRY TO REACH A DEAL TO RAISE
THE DEBT CEILING.
WHAT ARE YOU EXPECTING ON THAT
FRONT?
>> WELL, THE DEBT CEILING LOOMS
OVER ALL OF THIS, OBVIOUSLY.
AS YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THAT
REPUBLICANS HERE IN THE HOUSE
HAVE SAID THEY DO NOT WANT
TO VOTE TO RAISE THE DEBT
CEILING WITHOUT SOME KIND OF
SPENDING CUTS AND CONCESSIONS
FROM THE WHITE HOUSE.
THE WHITE HOUSE HAS SAID
PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS SAID
THEY DON'T WANT TO NEGOTIATE
ON THE DEBT CEILING, THAT
THEY'LL NEGOTIATE
WITH REPUBLICANS.
BUT FIRST, THEY WANT
REPUBLICANS TO TO PLEDGE
TO RAISE THE DEBT CEILING.
THAT'S RAISING ESSENTIALLY
THE GOVERNMENT'S LIMIT ON ITS
CREDIT CARD.
SO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CAN
PAY ITS BILLS.
WE'VE HEARD PRESIDENT BIDEN SAY
HE WANTS KEVIN MCCARTHY TO SHOW
HIM A PLANNED BUDGET, EITHER IN
THIS MEETING OR AFTER IT,
MEANING HE WANTS MCCARTHY
TO COMMIT TO SPENDING CUTS THAT
MCCARTHY WANTS, BECAUSE WE KNOW
MCCARTHY AND HOUSE REPUBLICANS
HAVE SAID THEY WANT SPENDING
CUTS, BUT IT'S UNCLEAR EXACTLY
WHAT THEY WANT TO CUT.
SO THE WHITE HOUSE HERE TRYING
TO MAKE THEM PLEDGE TO CUT
CERTAIN THINGS AND COMPARE
NOTES.
WE KNOW THAT THAT IS SOMETHING
THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE WATCHING
FOR IN THIS MEETING LATER
TODAY.
ALL RIGHT.
>> JAY O'BRIEN ON CAPITOL HILL,
THANK YOU.
AND NOW TO THAT DANGEROUS
WINTER STORM RESPONSIBLE FOR AT
LEAST THREE DEATHS.
IT'S CREATING DANGEROUS
CONDITIONS IN THE SOUTH.
OVER 100,000 CUSTOMERS ARE
WITHOUT POWER IN TEXAS.
MIREYA VILLARREAL HAS MORE FROM
DALLAS.
>> A MASSIVE WINTER
STORM SLAMMING THE SOUTH ROADS
LITTERED WITH WRECKS, PILEUPS
AND SPINOUTS.
IN ARKANSAS.
>> THE GOVERNOR ISSUING A STATE
OF EMERGENCY PASS AND TRUCKS
BACKED UP FOR HOURS ON I-40.
THE ICE STORM TAKING DOWNED
POWER LINES AND POLES.
YOU CAN SEE THIS ONE STILL
SIMMERING IN MEMPHIS.
>> OUR AFFILIATES DASH CAM
CATCHING THIS TRUCK SPIN OUT,
THEN SLAMMING INTO ANOTHER
CAR .
>> BACK IN TEXAS.
THE GOVERNOR WARNING DRIVERS
MANY ROADS IN TEXAS WILL REMAIN
VERY DANGEROUS FOR THE NEXT
24 TO 48 HOURS.
>> PEOPLE GROWING FRUSTRATE
OVER THE POOR ROAD CONDITIONS.
IT'S NOT LIKE THEY DIDN'T KNOW
ABOUT IT.
VERY FRUSTRATED, TRYING TO GET
HOME.
>> AT LEAST ONE PERSON DIED
AFTER THIS 10 VEHICLE PILEUP IN
AUSTIN.
IN DALLAS, A BRIGADE BANDING
TOGETHER AND TAKING TO THE
ROADS TO HELP DRIVERS LIKE THIS
BLACK PICKUP AND UNABLE TO GET
ANY TRACTION.
AND AIR TRAVEL HEAVILY IMPACTED
OVER FOURTEEN HUNDRED FLIGHTS
NATIONWIDE ALREADY CANCELED
TODAY AFTER MORE THAN 1900
FLIGHTS CANCELED YESTERDAY.
>> ALL RIGHT.
THANKS A MIREYA VILLARREAL.
MEANWHILE, VICE
PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS IS SET
TO ATTEND THE FUNERAL FOR TERRY
NICHOLS TODAY.
THE FATHER OF ONE WILL BE LAID
TO REST AS WE LEARN MORE ABOUT
THE FIVE POLICE OFFICERS
CHARGED WITH HIS MURDER.
STEPHANIE RAMOS HAS THE LATEST
FROM MEMPHIS.
AS MY BROTHER WAS HERE TODAY
AND YOU HAVE TO SAY SOMETHING,
YOU WILL TELL AS SOON AS THE
FAMILY OF TERRY NICHOLS
PREPARES FOR THE BELOVED
FATHER'S FUNERAL.
WE'RE LEARNING MORE ABOUT
THE DISCIPLINARY PAST OF
THE NOW FORMER MEMPHIS POLICE
OFFICERS CHARGED WITH HIS
MURDER.
THE MEMPHIS POLICE DEPARTMENT
RELEASING THE ADMINISTRATIVE
H.R. FILES OF THOSE FIVE FIRED
OFFICERS SEEN HERE TAKING
TURNS, BEATING NICHOLS IN THAT
DISTURBING VIDEO FROM
JANUARY 7TH, DAN HARRIS.
>> FOUR OUT OF THE FIVE FORMER
OFFICERS HAVE SUSPENSIONS OR
WRITTEN REPRIMANDS ON THEIR
RECORD .
NONE OF THE OFFICERS WERE FOUND
TO HAVE USED EXCESSIVE FORCE.
DEMETRIUS HALEY AND DESMOND
MILLS JR. FAILED TO FILE A ,
QUOTE, RESPONSE TO RESISTANCE
FORM AFTER USING PHYSICAL FORCE
DURING ARRESTS IN 2021.
AND TWENTY
NINETEEN RESPECTIVELY IN
JANUARY OF 2020 ONE , JUSTIN
SMITH RECEIVING A TWO DAY
SUSPENSION WITHOUT PAY
AND ORDERED REMEDIAL DRIVER'S
TRAINING FOR STRIKING A VEHICLE
,CAUSING IT TO SPIN OUT
AND STRIKE ANOTHER.
AND EMMETT MARTIN, THE THIRD
WRITTEN UP PREVIOUSLY FOR NOT
REPORTING A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
CASE REQUIRED BY LAW
AND FAILING TO INSPECT HIS
SQUAD CAR VEHICLE AFTER
A HANDGUN WAS FOUND ON THE REAR
FLOORBOARD.
NO INFRACTIONS WERE FILED FOR
TO DARIUSZ BEEN IT LOOKS LIKE
THEY WERE THE BLUE UNIFORM
WHERE YOU CAN BEAT A MAN
AND THEN LET THEM LAY THERE
WOUNDED OVER TWENTY MINUTES
AND THINK NOTHING WOULD HAPPEN
SO NO ONE WOULD CARE.
>> THIS AS KEY DISCREPANCIES
EMERGE BETWEEN AN INITIAL
INCIDENT REPORT OBTAINED BY ABC
NEWS AND WHAT WE'VE SEEN FROM
BODY CAMERA AND UTILITY POLE
CAMERA FOOTAGE.
THE REPORT STATING THAT FORMER
OFFICER MARTIN OBSERVED
NICHOLS'S VEHICLE DRIVING
RECKLESSLY AT A HIGH RATE OF
SPEED AND INTO ONCOMING
TRAFFIC.
BUT THAT OFFICERS CHIEF TELLING
ABC NEWS THEY HAVE NOT BEEN
ABLE TO VERIFY THAT CLAIM.
ANOTHER DETAIL ALLEGES NICHOLS
REACHED FOR AN OFFICER'S GUN
AND BELT, MADE HIS OWN GUN.
>> BUT THAT WASN'T CLEAR IN
THE VIDEO RELEASED.
WHAT IS CLEAR IS NICHOLS BEING
PUNCHED AND KICKED BY SEVERAL
LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY MAKING
CLEAR MORE INDIVIDUALS BEYOND
THOSE FIVE OFFICERS COULD
BE CRIMINALLY LIABLE.
>> WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT
EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, EVEN
PEOPLE THAT WE'RE FILING
REPORTS AFTERWARDS TO SHERIFF'S
DEPUTIES AND TO ADDITIONAL CITY
POLICE OFFICERS HAVE BEEN
RELIEVED OF DUTY AND ALSO
THREE FIRE DEPARTMENT PERSONNEL
HAVE BEEN FIRED AMID
THE FALLOUT.
>> THE FAMILY OF THE YOUNG
FATHER SHOWING THEY REMAIN
COMMITTED TO PURSUING JUSTICE.
>> JUSTICE FOR TERESA
STEPHANIE RAMOS, THANK YOU.
AND ABC NEWS JUSTIN FINCH JOINS
ME LIVE FROM MEMPHIS NOW
WITH MORE ON THIS.
JUSTIN, WHAT'S IT LIKE THERE
AHEAD OF THE FUNERAL TODAY?
DIANE , YOU KNOW, HERE IN
MEMPHIS FOR SO LONG, PEOPLE
HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR SOME KIND
OF CHANGE WITH THE MEMPHIS
POLICE DEPARTMENT POINTING
TO THAT SCORPION CRIME TASK
FORCE AT THE CENTER OF THIS
CASE INVOLVING TERRY NICHOLS.
SO THEY HAVE BEEN OUT FOR
SEVERAL DAYS NOW, PROTESTING
AND DEMANDING THAT CHANGE FOR
THE COURSE.
THE BUILD UP HAS BEEN TO THIS
MOMENT WHERE TYRE NICHOLS
IS BEING LAID TO REST.
A 29 YEAR OLD FATHER OF ONE WHO
FOR MANY ENCAPSULATES
THE CRISIS YOU ARE SEEING
WITH THIS POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE
TRYING TO FIGHT FOR
ACCOUNTABILITY.
THEY WANT TO SEE CHANGE.
AND OF COURSE, TODAY, THAT
FUNERAL HAPPENING NOW DELAYED
BY THE WEATHER, BUT WILL TAKE
PLACE THIS AFTERNOON.
AND THEY WILL GO THERE AND TALK
A LOT ABOUT THE CHANGE
THEY WANT TO SEE AND HOW THIS
FATHER ENCAPSULATES THAT
DIANE .
>> ALL RIGHT, JUSTIN, BENCH IN
MEMPHIS, THANK YOU.
AND WE WILL HAVE FULL COVERAGE
OF THE FUNERAL FOR TERRY
NICHOLS.
YOU CAN TUNE IN FOR THAT AT
2:00 P.M. EASTERN RIGHT HERE
ON "ABC NEWS LIVE".
AND IT'S TIME NOW FOR WORLDVIEW
WITH ABC NEWS PATRICK REEVELL.
STARTING IN THE MIDDLE EAST,
SECRETARY OF STATE
ANTONY BLINKEN IS ANNOUNCING
SENIOR U.S. OFFICIALS
WILL REMAIN IN THE REGION AFTER
HIS HIGH LEVEL MEETINGS
WITH LEADERS FROM PALESTINE
AND ISRAEL.
>> PATRICK , WHAT'S THE LATEST
?
>> YEAH, I MEAN, SECRETARY
BLINKEN HAS LEFT, BUT HE'S LEFT
BEHIND TWO VERY SENIOR STATE
DEPARTMENT OFFICIALS.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE REALLY
THROUGHOUT HIS TRIP,
THE MESSAGE WAS SIMPLE, CALLING
FOR CALM AMID THIS SPIKE IN
VIOLENCE AND REALLY EXTREME
TENSIONS BETWEEN PALESTINIANS
AND ISRAELIS RIGHT NOW.
AND THE PROBLEM IS , OF COURSE,
THAT THESE TENSIONS VERY MUCH
REMAIN SINCE HE LEFT.
THE PROBLEM IS THAT RIGHT NOW
WE HAVE A CONTEXT REALLY THAT
IS PRETTY EXPLOSIVE.
YOU HAVE THE MOST RIGHT WING
ISRAELI GOVERNMENT IN ITS
HISTORY.
AND AT THE SAME TIME, YOU HAVE
PRESIDENT MAHMOUD ABBAS OF
THE PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY,
WHO WAS REALLY LOST MUCH OF HIS
INFLUENCE AND AUTHORITY AMONG
PALESTINIANS.
AND SO WE'RE SEEING A VERY,
VERY DEADLY SITUATION IN ISRAEL
AND IN THE OCCUPIED TERRITORIES
AT THE MOMENT WHERE THE TWO
SIDES REALLY ARE MORE AND
MORE ON A TRAJECTORY.
IT LOOKS LIKE, TOWARDS
MORE VIOLENCE.
>> LET'S GO OVER TO THE UK,
WHERE YOU ARE, PATRICK .
NOW, MASSIVE PROTESTS ARE
TAKING PLACE THERE OVER
ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND TEACHERS
ARE ON STRIKE.
>> PATRICK , WHAT ARE
THEY ASKING FOR?
YEAH, THESE ARE HUGE STRIKES
THAT HAVE HIT THE UK TODAY.
IT'S OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND
TEACHERS ARE ESTIMATED TO BE
WALKING OUT, AND THAT MEANS
THOUSANDS OF SCHOOLS ARE
CLOSED.
BUT IN ADDITION TO THE
TEACHERS, WE'RE ALSO SEEING
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF OTHER
WORKERS JOINING THE STRIKE.
THAT INCLUDES RAIL WORKERS
AS WELL AS BORDER AGENCY STAFF.
IT'S ESTIMATED THAT UP TO HALF
A MILLION PEOPLE MIGHT BE ON
STRIKE TODAY.
WE'VE BEEN SEEING THOUSANDS OF
PEOPLE MARCHING THROUGH
THE CENTER OF LONDON
AND THEY'RE CALLING REALLY FOR
INCREASES IN PAY BECAUSE THIS
IS PART OF AN EXTRAORDINARY
WAVE OF STRIKES THAT WE'VE BEEN
SEEING IN THE PAST COUPLE OF
MONTHS THAT ARE BEING FUELED
BY THE COST OF LIVING CRISIS
HERE IN THE UK.
THAT IS A RESULT OF INFLATION
AND ALSO SURGING ENERGY PRICES.
AND PEOPLE ARE REALLY
STRUGGLING TO FEED THEMSELVES
INTO CHOOSE BETWEEN FEEDING
THEMSELVES AND BEING ABLE
TO KEEP THEMSELVES WARM
AND REALLY, IT LOOKS LIKE
MORE OF THESE STRIKES ARE GOING
TO CONTINUE, WHICH WE'RE SEEING
RIGHT NOW ALMOST EVERY KEY
PUBLIC SERVICE IN BRITAIN
IS GOING ON STRIKE.
>> ALL RIGHT.
PATRICK REEVELL WITH OUR WORLD
VIEW.
THANK YOU.
MEANWHILE, TOM BRADY
IS RETIRING AGAIN.
HE POSTED A VIDEO ON TWITTER
THIS MORNING MAKING THAT
ANNOUNCEMENT.
>> TAKE A LOOK.
I'M RETIRING FOR GOOD.
I KNOW THE PROCESS WAS A PRETTY
BIG DEAL LAST TIME.
I WON'T BE LONG WINDED.
YOU ONLY GET ONE SUPER
EMOTIONAL RETIREMENT ESSAY
AND I USE MINE UP LAST YEAR.
SO REALLY, THANK YOU GUYS SO
MUCH.
TO EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU FOR
SUPPORTING WITH 10 SUPER BOWL
APPEARANCES AND SEVEN
SUPER BOWL RINGS, THE FORTY
FOUR YEAR OLD HOLDS A RECORD
BREAKING LEGACY,
MORE CHAMPIONSHIP RINGS THAN
ANY OTHER PLAYER IN NFL
HISTORY.
AND A CLAIM TO THE TITLE
GREATEST OF ALL TIME.
COMING UP, THE BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION IS SET
TO PROPOSE A RULE TO REDUCE
CREDIT CARD LATE FEES.
WHAT IT COULD MEAN FOR
YOUR MONEY.
ALSO AHEAD, JURORS ARE SET
TO HEAR MORE TESTIMONY IN
THE DOUBLE MURDER TRIAL OF
SOUTH CAROLINA
ATTORNEY ALEX MURDAUGH.
HOW PROSECUTORS ARE USING CELL
PHONE DATA TO BUILD A TIMELINE
OF THE KILLINGS AFTER THIS IS G.
THE WEB OF DEATH NOW STREAMING
ONLY ON HULU.
>> WELCOME BACK.
THE FEDERAL RESERVE
WILL ANNOUNCE ITS FIRST
INTEREST RATE DECISION OF
THE YEAR THIS AFTERNOON.
IT COMES AS PRESIDENT BIDEN
PLANS TO CRACK DOWN ON JUNK
FEES AND LATE CREDIT CARD FEES.
ABC NEWS BUSINESS REPORT
ALEXIS CHRISTOFOROUS IS HERE
NOW WITH TODAY'S BUSINESS
HEADLINES.
HI, ALEXIS .
HEY THERE.
GOOD AFTERNOON.
THE FED IS EXPECTED TO RAISE
INTEREST RATES BY A QUARTER
PERCENTAGE POINT TODAY.
IT WOULD BE THE EIGHTH RATE
HIKE SINCE EARLY LAST YEAR
AND THE SMALLEST INCREASE WE'VE
SEEN SINCE MARCH.
SO FAR .
THOSE RATE INCREASES APPEAR
TO BE WORKING AS INFLATION
STARTS TO EASE.
STILL, TODAY'S ACTION WILL MEAN
HIGHER BORROWING COSTS FOR ALL
OF US , FOR EVERYTHING FROM
CAR LOANS AND MORTGAGES.
TO CREDIT CARDS.
AND SPEAKING OF CREDIT CARDS,
PRESIDENT BIDEN WANTS TO CAP
MOST CREDIT CARD LATE FEES AT
EIGHT DOLLARS FOR A MISSED
PAYMENT.
WOULDN'T BE NICE.
THAT WOULD BE DOWN FROM ABOUT
$40 RIGHT NOW.
THE WHITE HOUSE WILL ALSO URGE
CONGRESS TO CRACK DOWN ON THOSE
EXCESSIVE JUNK FEES, FEES,
CONCERT TICKET PROMOTERS,
AIRLINES AND RESORTS TACK ON TO
OUR BILLS AND SOME CONSUMER
PRICES MAY FINALLY BE COMING
DOWN.
BUT DON'T GET TOO EXCITED ABOUT
COFFEE.
EVEN THOUGH WHOLESALE COFFEE
BEANS ARE DOWN ABOUT 20%.
IT WILL TAKE A WHILE FOR THAT
TO TRICKLE DOWN TO CONSUMERS.
EXPERTS SAY FACTORS LIKE HIGHER
LABOR AND TRANSPORTATION COSTS
COULD ACTUALLY PUSH COFFEE
PRICES HIGHER TODAY.
SO, ALEXIS , IS THERE ANY
BRIGHT SPOT IN HERE?
ANY PRICE IS COMING DOWN.
FUNNY YOU SHOULD ASK, BECAUSE
I TOOK A LOOK AND IT LOOKS LIKE
IF YOU'RE HAVING A SUPER BOWL
PARTY, SOME OF THE ITEMS YOU
NEED FOR THAT ARE COMING DOWN.
SO AVOCADO'S FOR YOUR GUACAMOLE
DOWN 20%.
THEY WERE AT A RECORD HIGH LAST
YEAR.
WE HAD A BUMPER CROP THIS YEAR
AND ANOTHER ABOUT
TWENTY EIGHT POUND.
ALSO, CHICKEN WING PRICES ARE
DOWN ABOUT 22% ON THE UPSWING.
BEER WILL COST YOU 11% MORE .
AND SODA UP 25%.
SO YET ANOTHER REASON TO DITCH
THE SUGARY DRINKS.
>> AND ALEXIS, WHAT ARE YOU
LISTENING FOR AS WE LISTEN FOR
THIS RATE HIKE TODAY?
WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S TO COME
WITH THE QUARTER POINT RATE
HIKE IS ALREADY BAKED IN.
WE WANT TO SEE HOW MUCH
HOW MUCH MORE WE'RE GOING
TO GET FROM THE FED AND HOW
AGGRESSIVE THEY'RE GOING TO BE.
ALL RIGHT, ALEXIS , GREAT
TO HAVE YOU.
THANK YOU.
AND A PHONE FORENSIC EXPERT
RETURNS TO THE STAND TODAY
AFTER LEAVING THE ALEX MURDAUGH
DOUBLE MURDER TRIAL ON A
CLIFFHANGER.
MATT GUTMAN CELL PHONE DATA
IS BEING USED TO PAINT
A TIMELINE OF HER MOVEMENTS
AROUND THE TIME SHE AND HER
SON WERE KILLED.
THIS IS THE DEFENSE AND THE
LEAD INVESTIGATOR CLASH OVER
WHETHER MURDOCH INCRIMINATED
HIMSELF.
JUST A FEW DAYS LATER, ABC NEWS
CONTRIBUTOR, MANAGING PARTNER
AT THE COCHRAN FIRM, CHANNA
LLOYD, JOINS ME LIVE NOW FOR
MORE ON THIS SHOT OF THIS PHONE
FOR FORENSIC EXPERT PAINTED
A TIMELINE OF THE MURDERS
BY ANALYZING DATA FROM MAGU
CELL PHONE.
AND IT NOT ONLY RECORDED CALLS
AND TEXTS, BUT IT'S LOOKING AT
DETAILS LIKE HOW MANY STEPS SHE
TOOK, WHETHER SHE CHANGE
THE ORIENTATION ON THE PHONE
FROM LANDSCAPE TO PORTRAIT,
HOW IMPORTANT IS ALL OF THIS
GOING TO BE TO THIS CASE?
LISTEN FOR MORE INFORMATION.
AND THE CELL PHONE DATA
IS GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT
TO THE CASE BECAUSE IT'S
OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE THAT
IS DIRECT EVIDENCE.
IT IS SOMETHING THAT THE JURY
CAN LOOK AT THAT IS GOING TO BE
UNBIASED.
AND THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT WHEN
WE HAVE A CASE THAT'S BUILT
ON SO MUCH CIRCUMSTANTIAL
EVIDENCE.
THE RECORDS ALSO SHOW THAT
MURDOCH DELETED CALLS FROM HIS
PHONE THE NIGHT OF THE MURDER.
WHAT KIND OF A CHALLENGE DOES
THAT PRESENT FOR THE DEFENSE?
>> THAT ALWAYS PRESENTS A VERY
BIG CHALLENGE FOR THE DEFENSE,
BECAUSE THERE IS A PRESUMPTION
THAT IF YOU ARE DELETING CALL
LOGS ON THE NIGHT OF A MURDER,
THAT THERE IS SOME SORT OF
GUILT ASSOCIATION WITH THAT.
AND THAT'S A HARD HURDLE FOR
THE DEFENSE TO OVERCOME,
ESPECIALLY BECAUSE
THEIR NARRATIVE HAS BEEN SO
FAR THAT HE WAS COMPLETELY
TRANSPAC.
THIS DIRECTLY FLIES IN THE FACE
OF WHAT THAT GROUNDWORK WAS
THEY WERE SAYING BEFORE ABOUT
HIM BEING TRANSPARENT.
THERE ARE NEW QUESTIONS AS WELL
OVER WHETHER MURDOCH
ACTUALLY CONFESSED TO KILLING
HIS SON , PAUL .
IN AN INTERVIEW WITH POLICE,
THE INVESTIGATOR INSISTS
ALEX SAID ONE THING THE DEFENSE
IS IMPLYING, HE SAID ANOTHER.
AND THAT CONVERSATION
IS RECORDED.
SO HOW MUCH OF AN IMPACT DO YOU
THINK THE CONVERSATION, THAT
DEBATE BACK AND FORTH HAS
ON THE JURY AS THEY LISTEN
TO THE AUDIO?
MY EXPERIENCE WITH JURORS WHEN
THERE'S SOMETHING SUCH
AS TECHNICAL, SOMETHING AUDIO,
IT'S VERY INTERPRETIVE.
IT DEPENDS ON YOUR PERSPECTIVE
AND WHAT YOU HEAR A LOT OF
TIMES WHEN IT'S THE STATE
WANTING ONE AND THE DEFENSE
WANTING ANOTHER WAY, IT ENDS UP
BEING A WASH.
THEY LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE THAT
THEY CAN MAKE A DETERMINATION
ON WITH MORE OBJECTIVE
MANNERISMS AND METHODS
AS OPPOSED TO THIS SORT OF
AUDIO.
THEY'LL LISTEN TO IT.
THEY'LL TAKE WHAT THEY HEAR
AWAY FROM IT.
BUT FOR THE MOST PART, WHEN
IT'S VERY CLOSE LIKE THIS,
IT'LL BE A WASH.
>> NOW, TODAY, WE'RE HEARING
FROM THAT FORENSIC PHONE EXPERT
AGAIN.
ALSO PAUL'S ROOMMATE, AS WELL
AS THE PERSON HE WAS TEXTING
THE NIGHT HE DIED.
>> SO WHAT ARE YOU LISTENING
FOR?
WE'RE LISTENING FOR WHAT THESE
PARTICULAR WITNESSES,
ESPECIALLY THE ONES RELATED
TO ALEX, ARE LOOKING FOR.
ANY INDICATION OF ANYTHING
BEING WRONG?
WHAT WAS THE FAMILY SITUATION
THAT THEY WERE AWARE OF?
DID HE SAY ANYTHING THAT MIGHT
HAVE GIVEN THEM A CLUE THAT
SOMETHING WAS OFF, SOMETHING
WASN'T GOING ACCORDING TO PLAN?
WERE THERE ANY ARGUMENTS YOU'RE
LOOKING FOR THE SORT OF
CONTEXT, CLUES TO PUT ALL OF
THIS AROUND AND LOOK FOR SORT
OF FRAMEWORK?
>> AND , SEAN, ARE WE GOING
TO START TO HEAR CHARACTER
WITNESSES COME INTO PLAY?
>> I THINK EVENTUALLY
WE'LL HEAR SOME OF THAT.
THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO FLESH
OUT WHO HE WAS AS A PERSON.
YOU KNOW, THAT TYPE OF
INFORMATION.
YOU'LL HEAR THAT COME IN
THROUGH OTHER WITNESSES.
IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHETHER OR
NOT HE CHOOSES TO TAKE
THE STAND, HOW MUCH OF IT
WE'LL HEAR.
>> ALL RIGHT, CHANNA LLOYD,
THANK YOU.
COMING UP, WE ARE CELEBRATING
BLACK HISTORY MONTH WITH A LOOK
AT BLACK ENTERTAINERS INFLUENCE
IN AMERICAN CULTURE.
HOW PERFORMERS CHANGE THE RULES
IN LAS VEGAS AND PAVE THE WAY
FOR OTHERS AFTER THIS.
THE STORY IS WE'LL TAKE YOU
THERE.
LIVE STREAMING ABCNEWS.COM.
>> WELCOME BACK.
WE ARE CELEBRATING BLACK
HISTORY MONTH WITH A NEW ONE,
OUR ABC PRIMETIME SPECIAL,
BLACK IN VEGAS.
IT LOOKS BACK AT HOW VEGAS WENT
FROM BANNING BLACK ARTISTS,
FROM STAYING AT THE VERY HOTELS
THEY WERE PERFORMING IN
TO BECOMING HOME TO HUGELY
POPULAR RESIDENCIES FOR ARTISTS
LIKE NEIL AND USHER.
JANAI NORMAN HAS A PREVIEW.
LAS VEGAS, ONE OF AMERICA'S
PLAYGROUNDS.
BUT IN ITS EARLY DAYS IN
THE 1940S AND 50S, PEOPLE OF
COLOR WERE ONLY WELCOME
ON THE STAGE.
>> HOW CRAZY IT WAS THAT THESE
GREAT ENTERTAINERS COULD SELL
OUT THE SHOW TO HELP THE CASINO
BE SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE OF THOSE
PEOPLE AND YET COULDN'T STAY
THERE, COULDN'T GAMBLE,
COULDN'T HAVE FAMILY COME SEE
THE SHOW.
>> SEGREGATION WAS THE RULE IN
VEGAS.
AS IT WAS THROUGHOUT MOST OF
THE COUNTRY.
AND THIS RARE ARCHIVAL VIDEO,
ABC NEWS SPOKE TO SAMMY DAVIS
JR. ABOUT THE DIFFICULTIES HE
FACED.
>> SHE COULDN'T GET A ROOM
WHERE YOU WERE WORKING.
YOU KNOW, YOU CAN WORK
THE PLACE WE COULDN'T EVEN EAT
IN THE PLACE.
>> PERFORMERS LIKE SAMMY DAVIS
JR., LENA HORNE AND JOSEPHINE
BAKER ALL SPOKE OUT AGAINST
DISCRIMINATION THEY ENDURED.
BUT THEIR PUSH FOR EQUALITY
COMBINED WITH THE LONG TIME
WORK OF CIVIL RIGHTS
ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE NAACP
MADE A DIFFERENCE.
AND 1971 CHANGE WOULD COME
BY WAY OF AN IMPORTANT LEGAL
AGREEMENT.
>> SOME PEOPLE AT THE NAACP PUT
TOGETHER A CONSENT DECREE OF
THE CONSENT DECREE, THEN
DEMANDS TO 80% OF JOBS AND A
WHOLE ARRAY OF JOB CATEGORIES
FOR THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN
COMMUNITY.
THAT DECREE OPEN THE DOOR FOR
PEOPLE LIKE JACKIE BRATLEY,
WHO BECAME THE FIRST BLACK
FEMALE EXECUTIVE ON THE STRIP.
>> I WAS THE DIRECTOR OF
ADVERTISING AND PUBLIC
RELATIONS AT THE DESERT HOTEL.
I LOVED BEING IN THAT SPOT
BECAUSE IT WAS GOING TO OPEN
DOORS FOR OTHER BLACK PEOPLE
TODAY.
>> CASINOS, HOMES, BLACK
ARTISTS, AND SUPERSTARS
WHO PERFORM NIGHT AFTER NIGHT
TO SOLD OUT CROWDS LIKE GRAMMY
AWARD WINNER USHER USHER IN
A BRAND NEW LAS VEGAS.
>> SEE THE TYPE OF PROGRESS
THAT WE IN AMERICA HAVE
AS MINORITIES IS GOOD.
THERE'S SO MUCH MORE THAT WE
NEED TO ADDRESS, THOUGH.
>> THEY SHARE INCREDIBLE
BARRIER BREAKING STORIES LIKE
DURING HER NINETEEN FIFTY TWO
TOUR WHEN JOSEPHINE BAKER GOT
TO VEGAS AND SAID SHE WOULDN'T
PERFORM UNLESS THERE WERE
PEOPLE OF COLOR IN THE AUDIENCE
AND THEY HAD TO SCRAMBLE
TO MAKE IT HAPPEN AT A TIME.
DIANE , WHEN THAT DIDN'T
HAPPEN, THESE SMALL LITTLE
CHANGES.
JANAI NORMAN, THANK YOU.
AND SOUL OF A NATION PRESENTS
BLACK IN VEGAS PREMIERES
TONIGHT AT P.M. EASTERN
ON ABC AND STREAMED ON HULU
TOMORROW.
AND THANK YOU FOR STREAMING
WITH US.
I'M DIANE MACEDO
"ABC NEWS LIVE" IS HERE FOR
YOU.
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CONTEXT AND ANALYSIS, YOU CAN
ALWAYS FIND US ON HULU,
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ON ABC NEWS.
COM.
THE NEWS NEVER STOPS.
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK .
IT WAS JUST FUN.
I MEAN, IT'S FUN TO MAKE PEOPLE
BETTER.
IT'S INTELLECTUALLY CHALLENGING
.
YOU GET KIND OF A HIGH BECAUSE
EVERYBODY SITS
THE NEUROSURGEON'S HERE
DIFFICULT THE DIFFICULT
DIAGNOSTIC PROBLEMS WHICH ARE
INTELLECTUALLY INTERESTING
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