Transcript for ABC News Live: Boris Johnson pushes for more US support in Ukraine
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AND GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.
I'M KYRA PHILLIPS.
TODAY ON ABC NEWS LIVE,
A SHAKEUP ON CAPITOL HILL.
THE REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED HOUSE
OFFICIALLY VOTING TO BOOT.
CONGRESSWOMAN ILEANA OMAR FROM
THE FOREIGN AFFAIRS COMMITTEE.
>> WE'LL TELL YOU WHY AND HOW
SHE'S RESPONDING.
AND FROM VOTING OUT TO SWEARING
IN, THERE ARE
SEVENTY FIVE BRAND NEW MEMBERS
OF CONGRESS THIS YEAR.
AND WE ARE INTRODUCING YOU TO A
NEWBIE'S DEMOCRAT.
WILEY NICOLE HAS ONLY BEEN IN
OFFICE FOR A MONTH AND HAS
ALREADY HOSTED THE VICE
PRESIDENT IN HIS HOME DISTRICT.
OUR SERIES MEET THE FRESHMAN
STRAIGHT AHEAD.
BUT WE DO BEGIN, OF COURSE,
TALKING ABOUT THAT HOUSE
VOTE TO REMOVE CONGRESSWOMAN
ELLEN OMAR FROM THE FOREIGN
AFFAIRS COMMITTEE.
THE GOP LED HOUSE DECIDING
TO REMOVE HER FROM THAT
POSITION.
CITING CONCERNS OVER
OBJECTIVITY.
THE DEMOCRAT FROM MINNESOTA
ADDRESSED HER COLLEAGUES AHEAD
OF THE VOTE, SAYING THIS
IS REALLY AN ISSUE ABOUT HER
RACE AND RELIGION.
>> IT'S ABOUT WHO GETS TO BE AN
AMERICAN, WHAT OPINIONS DO WE
GET TO HAVE?
DO WE HAVE TO HAVE TO BE
COUNTED AS AMERICANS?
THIS IS WHAT THIS DEBATE
IS ABOUT.
MADAM SPEAKER.
THERE IS THIS IDEA THAT YOU ARE
A SUSPECT IF YOU ARE AN
IMMIGRANT OR IF YOU ARE FROM
CERTAIN PARTS OF THE WORLD OR
A CERTAIN SKIN TONE OR A MUSLIM
.
LET'S TAKE IT STRAIGHT TO THE
HILL WITH OUR CONGRESSIONAL
CORRESPONDENT, JOE BRYANT, ALSO
ABC NEWS WHITE HOUSE
CORRESPONDENT MARYALICE PARKS,
AND FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR
RENATO MARIOTTI.
ALL RIGHT.
LET'S START WITH YOU AND JUST
TALK ABOUT LAWMAKERS ON CAPITOL
HILL, WHAT THEY'RE SAYING ABOUT
THIS VOTE .
AND LET'S DOVE A LITTLE BIT
MORE INTO WHY THEY HELD THIS IN
THE FIRST PLACE TO VOTE HER
OUT.
>> YEAH, THIS WAS REPUBLICANS
SAID THAT THEY WANTED TO HOLD
THIS VOTE TO KICK ON OMAR OFF
OF THE FOREIGN AFFAIRS
COMMITTEE BECAUSE OF PREVIOUS
ANTI-SEMITIC STATEMENTS,
STATEMENT SHE'S APOLOGIZED FOR
AND ALSO HER CRITIQUES AGAINST
ISRAEL, SOMETHING THAT EHUD
OLMERT SAYS SHE WILL CONTINUE
TO BRING UP AND BRING FORTH
DESPITE THE FACT THAT SHE
WILL NO LONGER SIT
ON THE FOREIGN AFFAIRS
COMMITTEE.
KEVIN MCCARTHY IN A PRESS
CONFERENCE TOLD REPORTERS THAT
HE BELIEVES THAT THIS IS NOT A
FOR TAT.
IT IS NOT A REACTION TO THE
REPUBLICANS MAJORITY.
AGREED.
AND PAUL GOSAR, WHO REMOVED
FROM THEIR COMMITTEE
ASSIGNMENTS BY DEMOCRATS IN
THE PREVIOUS CONGRESS.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE
HEARING FROM DEMOCRATS IS THEY
BELIEVE THIS IS EXACTLY THAT,
THAT THEY BELIEVE IS REVENGE
POLITICS TARGETING EHUD OLMERT
AND TWO OTHER DEMOCRATS THAT
WERE PREVIOUSLY SITTING
ON THE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE
COMMITTEE.
HERE IS WHAT REPRESENTATIVE
ALEXANDER CORTEZ HAD TO SAY
ABOUT THAT ON THE FLOOR EARLIER
TODAY.
>> ONE OF THE DISGUSTING
LEGACIES AFTER 9/11 HAS BEEN
THE TARGETING AND RACISM
AGAINST MUSLIM AMERICANS
THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES OF
AMERICA.
AND THIS IS AN EXTENSION OF
THAT LEGACY CONSISTENCY.
THERE IS NOTHING CONSISTENT
WITH THE REPUBLICAN PARTY'S
CONTINUED ATTACK EXCEPT FOR
THE RACISM AND INCITEMENT OF
VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN OF COLOR
IN THIS BODY.
THIS IS ABOUT TARGETING WOMEN
OF COLOR IN THE UNITED
STATES OF AMERICA.
>> SO I CAN TELL YOU, I WAS
SITTING IN THE CHAMBER, I WAS
WATCHING THAT DEBATE, WHICH
CAME BEFORE THAT VOTE TO OUST
L.A. MORE FROM THE FOREIGN
AFFAIRS COMMITTEE.
AND THERE WAS A GROUP OF ABOUT
40 DEMOCRATS.
THEY WERE ALL SITTING AROUND
REPRESENTATIVE OMAR.
SOME WERE HUGGING HER.
SOME WERE PATTING HER
ON THE BACK.
THERE WAS OBVIOUSLY A LOT
MORE VOCAL DEFENSE OF HER
ON THE FLOOR DURING THE DEBATE.
OF COURSE, THE VOTE THAN
HAPPENS.
THE VOTE PASSES 218 218
REPUBLICANS TO 211 DEMOCRATS.
THERE WAS CONSTERNATION EARLIER
THIS WEEK AS TO WHETHER OR NOT
KEVIN MCCARTHY AND HOUSE
LEADERSHIP WOULD HAVE THE VOTES
THEY NEEDED TO OUST OMAR FROM
THE FOREIGN AFFAIRS COMMITTEE.
THEY DID END UP GETTING THOSE
VOTES.
MCCARTHY WHIPPED ENOUGH VOTES
IN HIS DIRECTION TO GET THIS
OVER THE GOAL LINE.
BUT THE QUESTION THEN REMAINS,
IS THIS THE END OF WHAT
DEMOCRATS CALL REVENGE POLITICS
IN THIS NEW CONGRESS?
>> OR IS IT THE ONLY
THE BEGINNING OF REPUBLICANS
WIELDING THIS NEW POWER?
THEY HAVE IN THE HOUSE?
>> SO, MARYALICE, WHAT DID
THE WHITE HOUSE SAY, IF
ANYTHING, IN THE BRIEFING NOT
TOO LONG AGO ABOUT THIS VOTE TO
REMOVE OMAR TO THE WHITE HOUSE
PRESS SECRETARY
KARINE JEAN-PIERRE WAS ASKED
ABOUT THIS AND SHE CALLED IT
A POLITICAL STUNT.
SHE SAID IT WAS AN UNJUST
REMOVAL, NOT ONLY OF OMAR FROM
THIS COMMITTEE, BUT SHE ALSO
MENTIONED THOSE TO HOUSE
DEMOCRATS THAT WERE REMOVED
FROM THE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE
COMMITTEE.
SHE CALLED IT ALL OF IT
A DISSERVICE TO THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE.
SHE WENT ON TO
DEFEND CONGRESSWOMAN OMAR,
CALLING HER A RESPECTED MEMBER
OF CONGRESS, SAYING THAT OMAR
HAD APOLOGIZED FOR PAST
COMMENTS, THAT SHE HAS BEEN
VOCAL ABOUT CONDEMNING
ANTI-SEMITISM.
SO REALLY, THE WHITE HOUSE
SPEAKING OUT ABOUT THIS MOVE,
CLEARLY NOT HAPPY AND CLEARLY,
LIKE SHE WAS SAYING, WORRY THAT
THIS MIGHT BE REVENGE POLITICS,
A POLITICAL STUNT, THEY'RE
CALLING IT.
>> AND MARY BRUCE.
WE'RE ALSO HEARING THAT
THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE IS IN
CONTACT WITH FORMER VICE
PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE AND HIS
LAWYERS ABOUT SCHEDULING THIS
POTENTIAL SEARCH OF HIS HOME IN
INDIANA.
>> WHAT DO WE KNOW?
IT LOOKS LIKE EARLY DAYS RIGHT
NOW, NOTHING ON THE BOOKS.
BUT WHAT IT SEEMS LIKE IS THE
FORMER VICE PRESIDENT IS
WILLING TO COOPERATE
WITH INVESTIGATORS VERY SIMILAR
TO WHAT WE'VE SEEN FROM THIS
PRESIDENT WHO'S BEEN WILLING
TO INVITE INVESTIGATORS INTO
HIS RESIDENCE TO LOOK FOR
DOCUMENTS.
PENCE'S TEAM SAID THEY DON'T
EXPECT THAT INVESTIGATORS
WILL FIND ANY ADDITIONAL
CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS.
THEY FEEL CONFIDENT THAT
THEY DID THAT KIND OF SEARCH
THEMSELVES.
THEY FOUND DOCUMENTS.
BUT IT IS INTERESTING, AGAIN,
TO WATCH SOME OF THESE FIGURES
OF FORMER VICE PRESIDENT RIGHT
AFTER A SITTING PRESIDENT BEING
WILLING TO OPEN THEIR DOORS
TO INVESTIGATORS TO LOOK
THROUGH BOXES AND CLOSETS
AND ROOMS, TRYING TO COOPERATE
AND MAKE SURE THAT ANY
DOCUMENTS NEED TO BE TURNED
OVER, TURNED OVER.
>> SO WE'RE NOT.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
WHAT DOES THIS NEW POTENTIAL
SEARCH MEAN FOR THE FORMER VICE
PRESIDENT FROM A LEGAL
STANDPOINT?
AND WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT HIS
LEGAL TEAM AND WHAT THEY'RE
DOING RIGHT NOW?
>> YEAH, I'M ACTUALLY FAIRLY
IMPRESSED WITH THE DEFENSE
LEGAL TEAM AND HOW
THEY APPROACH THIS.
YOU KNOW, IF WE REMEMBER, THIS
WAS A SEARCH THAT WAS INITIATED
BY PENCE'S TEAM ON THEIR OWN,
BASICALLY OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE
OF CAUTION, ONCE THEY SAW
THE BIDEN SEARCH AND THE BIDEN
RESULTS.
AND I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY
THE SORT OF PROACTIVE APPROACH
THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE FOR
THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT AND
HIS TEAM.
INSTEAD OF THIS HAPPENING
FIVE MONTHS LATER OR FIVE YEARS
LATER, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S
HAPPENING WHILE IT'S BEING
OVERSHADOWED BY THE PROBLEMS OF
THE CURRENT PRESIDENT .
AND IN THIS REGARD, THEY SAID
THEY'VE ALREADY CONDUCTED
A THOROUGH SEARCH.
I PRESUME, IF THAT'S THE CASE,
OTHERWISE, THEY SHOULD HAVE
DONE THAT BEFORE LETTING THEM
IN.
BUT I ASSUME THAT THAT'S
THE CASE.
AND FRANKLY, THAT'S REALLY
THE WAY THIS SHOULD WORK.
WE SHOULD HAVE FORMER PUBLIC
OFFICIALS COOPERATING WITH THE
JUSTICE DEPARTMENT.
I THINK FORMER
PRESIDENT TRUMP'S APART
AND ALONE HERE, SEPARATE FROM
THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT AND
THE CURRENT PRESIDENT IN TERMS
OF HIS APPROACH.
I THINK THE VICE PRESIDENT ,
PENCE'S APPROACH IS VERY
STATIC.
>> SO PRESIDENT BIDEN,
ON THE OTHER HAND , A THIRD
SEARCH NOW, THIS TIME OF HIS
BEACH HOUSE, THE FBI APPARENTLY
NOT TURNING UP ANYTHING.
SO AT WHAT POINT, RENATO, DO
THE SEARCHES STOP?
>> WELL, A GREAT QUESTION.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT
ONE CONTRASTIVE TRACK HERE
IS THAT, YOU KNOW, AS FAR
AS YOU KNOW FROM VICE
PRESIDENT .
SO PART OF THIS IS THE FIRST
NEWS EVENT WAS A INITIAL EVENT
REGARDING VICE PRESIDENT PENCE,
WHERE THERE WAS A MENTION THAT
THERE WERE THESE DOCUMENTS THAT
WERE TURNED OVER.
NOW WE HAVE ONE SEARCH.
I THINK WHAT THE BIDEN TEAM DID
MANAGE TO TURN ONE NEWS EVENT
INTO SEVERAL.
AND REALLY MY CRITICISM IN
TERMS OF OUR APPROACH HERE
IS THAT I DO THINK THE THE
BIDEN TEAM SHOULD HAVE HAD ALL
THESE SEARCHES DONE IN
THE FRONT END.
THEY SHOULD HAVE AGREED
TO EVERYTHING ON THE FRONT.
SO IT IS , I THINK, PERPLEXING
TO ME WHY THEY ARE ALLOWING
THIS TO DRIBBLE OUT OVER TIME.
BUT CERTAINLY THE COOPERATIVE
APPROACH, I THINK SUGGESTS BOTH
FOR FOR FORMER VICE
PRESIDENT AND FOR CURRENT
PRESIDENT , JOE BIDEN, THAT
THEIR TEAMS REALLY DON'T SEE
ANY POTENTIAL CRIMINAL
LIABILITY HERE.
THAT'S WHY THEY'RE BEING SO
COOPERATIVE.
>> MARYALICE PARKS O'BRIEN
AND RENATA MARIOTTI, THANK YOU
SO MUCH TO ALL THREE OF YOU.
AND AS WE WITNESS THE VOTING
TO OUST A MEMBER OF CONGRESS AT
THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, WE
WATCHED SEVENTY FIVE BRAND
NEW MEMBERS OF CONGRESS
ACTUALLY GET SWORN IN.
AND IF JANUARY IN THAT VOTE FOR
SPEAKER WAS ANY INDICATION,
THEY ARE IN FOR A WILD RIDE.
IT'S ONE OF THE YOUNGEST
FRESHMAN CLASSES IN RECENT
MEMORY AND IT INCLUDES
DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSMAN WILEY
NICCOLr, WHO WON A TIGHT RACE
AGAINST BACK CANDIDATE AND NOW
REPRESENTS NORTH CAROLINA'S
13TH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT.
>> CONGRESSMAN, WELCOME .
>> THANKS SO MUCH FOR HAVING
ME.
WHAT A WELCOME TO WASHINGTON.
IT'S BEEN FOR ME HERE.
>> I CAN JUST IMAGINE.
AND , YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING
TO TALK ABOUT YOUR NEW GIG IN
JUST A MOMENT.
BUT FIRST, I HAVE TO ASK YOU
ABOUT THE HOUSE JUST OUSTING
CONGRESSWOMAN OHMAR FROM
THE HOUSE FOREIGN AFFAIRS
COMMITTEE OVER CONCERNS ABOUT
HER OBJECTIVITY, PARTICULARLY
AFTER HER ANTI-SEMITIC TROPES
ON TWITTER, WHICH SHE HAS SINCE
APOLOGIZED.
>> OR WAS THIS THE RIGHT THING
TO DO?
I MEAN, THIS IS JUST
MORE PARTISAN POLITICS.
THIS IS NOT SOLVING PROBLEMS
FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
IT'S THE WORST OF PARTISAN
POLITICS.
AND I WAS GLAD TO JOIN WITH ,
YOU KNOW, REPRESENTATIVE O'MARA
TODAY IN A IN A RESOLUTION
CONDEMNING ANTI-SEMITISM,
SEMITISM.
SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK FOLKS ARE
MUCH MORE INTERESTED WHAT WE'RE
GOING TO DO TO IMPROVE
THEIR LIVES.
>> AND I THINK IT'S ALSO WORTH
MENTIONING, TOO, THAT
CONGRESSMAN SCHIFF
AND CONGRESSMAN SWALWELL WERE
ALSO REMOVED FROM THEIR POSTS
JUST DAYS AGO.
BY THIS THIS NEW REPUBLICAN
LEADERSHIP.
AND , YOU KNOW, OMAR,
WHO HERSELF HAS FACED
ANTI-MUSLIM BIGOTRY SINCE
TAKING OFFICE AS WELL.
>> AND SHE TOLD REPORTERS LAST
WEEK THAT THE MOVE TO REMOVE
HER FROM THE COMMITTEE WAS
PURELY PARTISAN.
AND THEN SHE WENT ON TO SAY
THAT IT'S NOT ONLY A
POLITICAL STUNT, BUT ALSO
A BLOW TO THE INTEGRITY OF
OUR DEMOCRATIC INSTITUTIONS,
SHE SAYS, AND A THREAT TO OUR
NATIONAL SECURITY.
DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT?
I CERTAINLY AGREE THAT IT'S
PARTISAN POLITICS AND YOU JUST
HAVE TO LOOK AT THE SCORE FOR
THE VOTE.
THE LAST I SAW IT WAS ALL
REPUBLICANS AND ALL DEMOCRATS
ON THE ON THIS VOTE .
SO YOU CERTAINLY WAS NOT
A BIPARTISAN CONDEMNATION AT
ALL.
>> THIS WAS PURELY POLITICS.
ALL RIGHT.
LET'S TALK ABOUT YESTERDAY.
SPEAKER MCCARTHY AND ALSO
PRESIDENT BIDEN SPOKE FOR ABOUT
AN HOUR MEETING THAT MCCARTHY
SAID WENT BETTER THAN HE
THOUGHT.
YOU'VE SAID THAT RAISING
THE DEBT CEILING IS THE CRUCIAL
STEP THAT CONGRESS NEEDS
TO TAKE.
DO YOU BELIEVE THIS WILL GET
DONE?
>> WE'VE GOT TO DO IT.
YOU I THINK I'M SOMEONE
WHO WANTS TO CUT SPENDING.
WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT
OUR REVENUE, TOO.
BUT THE WAY TO DO THAT IS TO
DEAL WITH THAT IN TERMS OF
THE BUDGET, YOU KNOW, WE'VE
ALREADY AGREED TO PAY THESE
BILLS.
>> WE NEED TO PAY THE BILLS.
>> YOU KNOW, THE FULL FAITH
AND CREDIT OF THE UNITED
STATES IS ON THE LINE HERE.
SO WE NEED A CLEAN DEBT CEILING
VOTE .
BUT I WELCOME THAT
CONVERSATION.
ABOUT, YOU KNOW, REDUCING
THE DEBT, REDUCING THE DEFICIT.
THOSE ARE THOSE CONVERSATIONS
WE NEED TO HAVE.
>> BUT BUT DOING IT WHEN WE
HOLD THE ECONOMY OF THE UNITED
STATES HOSTAGE BY , YOU KNOW,
THREATENING NOT TO RAISE
THE DEBT CEILING IS BAD FOR
AMERICA.
>> SO YOU WELCOME VICE
PRESIDENT HARRIS TO YOUR
DISTRICT THIS WEEK TO DISCUSS
JOBS AND THE ECONOMY.
>> AND THAT'S A BIG DEAL , NOT
FOR A FRESHMAN LAWMAKER WHO'S
THE VICE PRESIDENT IN
THEIR DISTRICT IN THEIR VERY
FIRST MONTH OF OFFICE.
>> SO TELL US WHAT YOU TWO
TALKED ABOUT.
>> YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT
MY DISTRICT NEEDS OF NORTH
CAROLINA'S 13TH DISTRICT,
ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING
CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS IN
THE COUNTRY.
WE HAD SBA ADMINISTRATOR ISABEL
GUZMAN WITH US AS WELL.
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT
THE OBSTACLES TO ACCESSING
CAPITAL FOR MINORITY SMALL
BUSINESSES.
IT WAS A GREAT DISCUSSION
AND ONE THAT I'M VERY
ENCOURAGED THAT
THE ADMINISTRATION IS IS
STARTING AND WILL CONTINUE
TO HAVE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
>> SO, OF COURSE, WE HAD
A CHANCE TO SEE SOME FUN
PICTURES AND VIDEO OF A NUMBER
OF YOU THAT BROUGHT
YOUR CHILDREN TO THE HOUSE
FLOOR.
YOUR CHILDREN, ADELINE
AND PRESCOTT, THEY GOT TO COME
WITH YOU FOR THAT VOTE FOR
HOUSE SPEAKER.
SO HOW MANY ROUNDS OF VOTING
DID THEY ACTUALLY MAKE IT
THROUGH?
>> AND WHAT DO THEY THINK ABOUT
YOUR NEW GIG?
>> THEY MADE IT THROUGH
ONE ROUND.
THAT WAS ABOUT ALL THEY COULD
HANDLE.
THEY DID NOT DO ALL 14 .
MY MOM WAS IN THE GALLERY.
>> SHE MADE IT THROUGH
SIX ROUNDS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE GLAD
TO BE PART OF IT.
>> AND IT WAS IT WAS A VERY,
VERY MEMORABLE
WELCOME TO WASHINGTON.
>> FIRST WEEK FOR THE WHOLE
NICOLE FAMILY.
>> DID ANY ONE OF YOUR KIDS OR
MOM OR YOUR WIFE SAY, OH, BOY,
WHAT THE HECK DID YOU SIGN UP
FOR?
>> BUT IT WAS A PRETTY ROUGH
CAMPAIGN TO GET HERE.
>> SO THIS WAS THIS WAS THIS
THIS PALED IN COMPARISON
WITH THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF
ATTACK ADS.
>> IT CAN BE A PRETTY, PRETTY
BRUTAL PROCESS.
NOW, YOU WERE A FORMER AIDE
TO PRESIDENT OBAMA AND YOU
WORKED ON HIS 2008 CAMPAIGN.
WHAT DID YOU LEARN THAT YOU'RE
GOING TO CARRY WITH YOU NOW
AS YOU REPRESENT NORTH
CAROLINA?
>> ONE OF THE BEST THINGS
I LEARNED FROM PRESIDENT OBAMA
IS THAT YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO BE
YOURSELF.
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE UNDERSTAND
THAT.
AND HE WAS SOMEONE WHO WAS
ALWAYS THE SAME BACKSTAGE OFF
CAMERA THAT HE WAS ON CAMERA.
AND I THINK THAT'S THAT'S
REALLY ONE OF THE MOST
IMPORTANT LESSONS.
AND HE WORKED IN A YOU KNOW, HE
BUILT COALITIONS TO GET THINGS
DONE.
THAT'S SOMETHING I'VE TAKEN
TO HEART AND DOING ALL I CAN
TO WORK IN A BIPARTISAN WAY
TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS WE NEED
TO TACKLE IN THIS COUNTRY.
AND THE BOTTOM LINE IS IT'S
GOING TO TAKE 60 VOTES IN
THE SENATE TO DO MAJOR
LEGISLATION.
AND THAT'S MY FOCUS, FIGURING
OUT A WAY TO GET TO 60 VOTES IN
THE SENATE AND MOVE LEGISLATION
THROUGH THE HOUSE AND SENATE
THAT WE CAN GET THE
PRESIDENT TO SIGN.
>> ALL RIGHT.
STAY TUNED.
WE'LL ALL BE WATCHING.
DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSMAN WILEY
NICKEL OF NORTH CAROLINA, YOU
HAVE A LOT AHEAD.
AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE TALKING
MORE ON EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE
DOING.
>> PUSH FORWARD.
APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
THANKS SO MUCH.
ALL COMING UP, FROM 10 DOWNING
STREET TO CAPITOL HILL, FORMER
U.K. PRIME MINISTER BORIS
JOHNSON LOBBYING
TOP REPUBLICANS TO CONTINUE
TO SUPPORT UKRAINE.
HE ALSO SPOKE EXCLUSIVELY
WITH OUR LINSEY DAVIS.
TH.
AT OUR EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW
WITH FORMER BRITISH PRIME
MINISTER BORIS JOHNSON.
HE RESIGNED AS UK PRIME
MINISTER LAST YEAR.
AFTER THAT SERIES OF SCANDALS,
INCLUDING HOSTING PARTIES
DURING THE COVID-19 LOCKDOWN.
WHILE JOHNSON IS IN THE U.S.
NOW WITH A FOCUS ON UKRAINE,
ASKING REGIONAL LEADERS TO STAY
FIRM ON THAT FINANCIAL
COMMITMENT THAT THE U.S. HAS
MADE TO THE WAR EFFORT.
HERE'S PART ONE OF THE WIDE,
WIDE RANGING CONVERSATION
WITH OUR LINSEY DAVIS PRIME
MINISTER LINDSEY LINDSEY.
HOW ARE YOU TO BE INVITED
ON OUR SHOW?
OF COURSE.
THANK YOU MUCH.
>> FORMER BRITISH PRIME
MINISTER BORIS JOHNSON ON U.S.
SOIL HERE TO URGE
REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS IN US AS
A WHOLE TO STAY THE COURSE
WITH AID TO UKRAINE.
JUST BACK FROM UKRAINE.
YES, TELL ME ABOUT WHAT STRUCK
YOU THE MOST.
>> I JUST THINK THE EXTENT OF
THE OF THE DAMAGE I WAS JUST
THE OUTSKIRTS OF KYIV, BUT
I SAW SUCH A INCREDIBLE
CATASTROPHIC LOSS OF ECONOMY
HAS BEEN ABSOLUTELY TRASHED.
THE SUFFERING IS COLOSSAL.
>> THE WORLD IS IN MASSIVELY
THE DEBT OF THE UNITED
STATES FOR HELPING
THE UKRAINIANS TO FIGHT THIS
WAR.
>> BUT NUMBER TWO, IT
IS MASSIVELY IN THE INTERESTS
OF THE UNITED STATES TO SEE
THIS THING THROUGH AND TO
GET VICTORY FOR THE UKRAINIANS.
>> YOU RECENTLY PENNED AN OP ED
IN THE LAST LINE WAS LET'S
GIVE UKRAINIANS WHAT THEY NEED
TO WIN NOW.
>> YEAH, WHAT DO THEY NEED
MOST?
I LOOK, I COULD READ OUT
A WHOLE LIST OF THE STUFF THAT
VLADIMIR LEONSKI WANTS, BUT
I WANT TO REASSURE PEOPLE IN
AMERICA THAT THIS IS NOT GOING
TO BE JUST A CONFLICT THAT GOES
ON FOREVER.
>> WHAT BROUGHT YOU HERE
TO D.C.?
>> I'M HERE REALLY TO MAKE IT
CLEAR TO AMERICAN LAWMAKERS,
TO THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA,
AS FAR AS I'M ABLE, HOW DEEPLY
GRATEFUL.
I THINK WE IN THE UK, EVERYBODY
IN EUROPE IS TO THE UNITED
STATES FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE.
>> I MEAN, LOOK AT IT.
THIS IS A WAR THAT COULD SO
EASILY HAVE GONE THE OTHER WAY.
PUTIN COULD HAVE CRUSHED THIS
COUNTRY.
>> AND WHAT HAPPENED?
THE UNITED STATES STEPPED IN,
GAVE THE ASSISTANCE, GAVE
THE TRAINING, GAVE
THE INTELLIGENCE TO HELP
THE UKRAINIANS TO DEFEND
THEMSELVES AND THAT WAS
A MAGNIFICENT THING TO DO.
ABSOLUTELY MAGNIFICENT.
AND ALL I WANT TO SAY IS THAT
THE UNITED STATES , I HOPE,
WILL STICK WITH IT.
>> ARE YOU GETTING THAT SENSE
OF SUPPORT TODAY WHERE YOU MET
WITH KEVIN MCCARTHY, MITCH
MCCONNELL?
>> I DID SO EVERYWHERE.
>> I EVERYBODY I TALKED TO ,
I TALKED TO SPEAKER MCCARTHY.
I TALKED TO MITCH MCCONNELL,
LOADS OF PEOPLE.
AND I FOUND A BIPARTISAN
SUPPORT, AS YOU KNOW.
AND THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE
WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT
THE COST, SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE
CONCERNED ABOUT THE PLAN.
>> BUT I THINK IN THE END,
EVERYBODY CAN SEE THAT THIS
IS A ABSOLUTELY OVERWHELMINGLY
IMPORTANT CAUSE OR WHIT JOHNSON
HAS IT RIGHT WHEN IT COMES
TO RUSSIA AND THE UKRAINE.
>> THIS IS A PIVOTAL MOMENT IN
THE THE 21ST CENTURY.
>> PEOPLE WILL LOOK BACK AT
THE WAR IN UKRAINE.
THEY WILL SAY, WELL, ACTUALLY ,
THE WEST STOOD UP FOR ITSELF,
BUT AMERICA DID WHAT IT DID IN
THE IN THE 1930S AND 1940S
AND ACTUALLY CAME ACROSS
AND UPHELD THE VALUES OF
FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY MADE
THE DIFFERENCE.
WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THOSE
REPUBLICANS WHO ARE OPPOSING
SENDING MORE MONEY?
WE HEARD IN NOVEMBER
MERGENTHALER GREEN , SHE'S A
STAUNCH REPUBLICAN , SAID NOT
ANOTHER PENNY WILL GO
TO UKRAINE.
CONGRESSMAN MATT GAETZ TWEETED,
I WILL NOT VOTE FOR ONE MORE
DOLLAR TO UKRAINE.
WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THOSE
REPUBLICANS WHO SO STRONGLY
OPPOSE ADDITIONAL AID
TO UKRAINE?
>> I JUST THINK THAT IT'S
A MASSIVE INVESTMENT.
>> IT'S IT'S IT'S A DOUBLE
THE PRICE, BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE
DOING AND SPEAKING JUST PURELY
FINANCIAL OR ECONOMIC, DON'T
YOU TALK ABOUT THE MONEY
THE UNITED STATES HAS MADE
A BIG FINANCIAL COMMITMENT, BUT
IT IS A FRACTION OF THE DEFENSE
BUDGET.
>> WILL YOU MEET WITH PRESIDENT
BIDEN WHILE YOU'RE HERE?
I KNOW I'M A MERE I'M A MERE
BACKBENCHER NOW.
>> IN NOVEMBER, IN AN
INTERVIEW, YOU SAID THAT WHEN
IT CAME TO UKRAINE THAT YOU
FELT PRESIDENT BIDEN WAS DOING
AN ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL JOB.
>> WOULD YOU STILL SAY
THE SAME?
I THINK THAT DESPITE
THE ENORMOUS PRESSURES
THE UNITED STATES HAS BEEN
UNDER THE FISCAL PRESSURES THAT
WE'VE ALL BEEN UNDER, I THINK
THE LEADERSHIP OF THE UNITED
STATES HAS BEEN FANTASTIC.
AND I THINK JOE A GREAT JOB.
BUT IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN
BIPARTISAN.
>> JUST THIS PAST SATURDAY,
DONALD TRUMP AT A RALLY SAID IF
I WERE PRESIDENT , THERE WOULD
NOT HAVE BEEN A WAR IN RUSSIA
AND UKRAINE.
ZERO CHANCE.
HE WENT ON TO SAY, I WOULD HAVE
A PEACE DEAL NEGOTIATED WITHIN
TWENTY FOUR HOURS.
YOU COULD MAKE A PEACE DEAL FOR
BOTH.
RIGHT NOW, TWENTY FOUR HOURS.
>> DO YOU AGREE WITH EITHER
STATEMENT?
I LOOK, I THE PRESIDENT ,
FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD IS A
HE'S A GREAT DEAL MAKER, BUT
I DON'T THINK THERE'S A DEAL
HERE.
>> THERE WAS A SNIPPET OF
THE BBC DOCUMENTARY THAT WAS
RECENTLY RELEASED WHERE YOU SAY
THAT THAT PUTIN SAID TO YOU
ON THE PHONE, BORIS, I DON'T
WANT TO HURT YOU, BUT WITH A
MISSILE, IT WOULD ONLY TAKE
A MINUTE.
>> HOW DID YOU RESPOND?
YEAH, I THOUGHT HE WAS SORT OF
TRYING TO CREEP ME OUT.
AND IT'S A PLAYFUL WAY.
AND HE WAS REALLY TALKING ABOUT
THE DANGERS OF A MISSILE
EXCHANGE.
>> I THINK THE CRUCIAL THING
WITH ALL THIS IS NOT TO GET
INTO THAT ARGUMENT.
>> DO YOU THINK HE'S UNHINGED?
>> WHAT'S HIS MINDSET?
YOU KNOW, I THINK THE LESS WE
TALK ABOUT HIM, THE BETTER.
>> JUST A QUICK QUESTION,
BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT
WITH HARRY AND ALL OF THAT
AND THE QUEEN PASSING AWAY.
>> YOU THINK THAT THE MONARCHY
SHOULD HAVE A DIFFERENT ROLE IN
THE FUTURE IN THE U.K.?
>> I THINK ONE OF THE GREAT
ACHIEVEMENTS OF HER LATE
MAJESTY, THE QUEEN, WAS THAT
SHE SHE SHE GREATLY MODERNIZED
THE MONARCHY AND DID A HUGE
AMOUNT TO STABILIZE IT AND TO
PREPARE HER SON FOR KINGSHIP
AND ACTUALLY, I THINK THAT
HE'S DOING AN ABSOLUTELY BANG
UP JOB AT THE MOMENT
AND EVERYBODY CAN SEE IT.
>> AND SO, YOU KNOW, I KNOW
HERE IN THE UNITED STATES , YOU
DECIDED IN 1776 FOR REASONS
THAT I CAN'T FULLY EXPLAIN,
THAT YOU COULD RUB ALONG
WITHOUT THE MONARCHY.
>> OKAY, THAT WAS YOUR CALL.
BUT WE THINK IT WORKS BETTER.
>> WORK OUT TO CORRELATE.
WELL, I THINK I THINK
OUR SYSTEM WORKS WELL.
>> I'LL TELL YOU WHY, BECAUSE
WHAT YOU HAVE IS A DIVISION
BETWEEN THE POLITICAL AUTHORITY
AND THE FIGUREHEAD INCARNATES
ALL THAT'S GOOD.
>> ALL THAT'S WONDERFUL ABOUT
THE HISTORY OF THE NATION.
>> AND WHEN THOSE TWO ROLES
KIND OF BOUND UP IN ONE ,
THE CONSTITUTION, THAT CAN
BE QUITE PRESSURE ON WHOEVER
IS SUPPOSED TO OCCUPY
THE OFFICE AND SO HAVING
A MONARCH IS A IS A IS A GREAT
THING FOR OUR COUNTRY.
>> WHEN YOU LEFT PARLIAMENT
AS PRIME MINISTER, OF COURSE,
YOU FAMOUSLY REPEATED THE QUOTE
OF ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER
WITH US TELEVISED DEBATE.
MANY PEOPLE THOUGHT THAT WAS
A NOD TO ANOTHER QUOTE FROM
THE TERMINATOR CHARACTER THAT
I'LL BE BACK.
>> ANY CHANCE?
>> OH, MY GOSH, WHAT A GREAT
CONVERSATION.
COMING UP NEXT HOUR,
LINDSAY CONTINUES TO ASK THOSE
RIVETING QUESTIONS AND YOU
WILL HEAR MORE FROM JOHNSON
TO THAT ANSWER.
IN ADDITION TO MORE ON WHY HE
ACTUALLY THINKS THE U.S.
SHOULDN'T HAVE LEFT THE BRITISH
MONARCHY.
THAT'S IN OUR NEXT HOUR
WITH LINSEY DAVIS AND BORIS
JOHNSON.
ALL RIGHT.
COMING UP, OTHER NEWS WE'RE
FOLLOWING, A TWIST IN
THE ALEX MURDAUGH TRIAL.
THE JUDGE RULING TO ALLOW
EVIDENCE FROM HIS FINANCIAL
CRIMES WHEN HE WAS PRACTICING
AS AN ATTORNEY .
AND THAT COULD CHANGE THIS
TRIAL.
MOVING FORWARD.
WE'LL TAKE YOU
THERE.
YOU'RE SEEING ABCNEWS.COM.
>> THANKS FOR STARTING WITH US.
WE ARE FOLLOWING SOME OTHER
HEADLINES THIS HOUR FOR YOU.
BOMBSHELL TESTIMONY IN
THE MURDER TRIAL FOR
ALEX MURDAUGH TWO FAMILY
FRIENDS SAYING THEY ARE 100%
CERTAIN THAT THEY CAN HEAR HIS
VOICE IN A VIDEO TAKEN BY HIS
SON , PAUL JUST MOMENTS BEFORE
HE AND HIS MOM WERE KILLED.
MURDOCH WAS EMOTIONAL IN COURT
YESTERDAY, BUT HAS SAID HE
WASN'T THERE UNTIL AFTER
THEY DIED.
WELL, TODAY, JURORS ARE ALREADY
HEARING ABOUT MURDOCH'S
FINANCIAL TROUBLES.
SNAPCHAT FACING A CLASS ACTION
LAWSUIT FROM MORE THAN
50 FAMILIES WHO SAY THE APP
HELPED DRUG DEALERS SELL DRUGS
LACED WITH FENTANYL TO THEIR
KIDS.
THAT SUED, ALLEGING THAT
SNAPCHAT IS A CONDUIT FOR 75%
OF FENTANYL DEATHS IN MINORS.
OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS ALONE.
AND SNAPCHAT NOT COMMENTING
SUIT, BUT SAYS IT WORKS
DILIGENTLY TO SHUT DOWN DRUG
DEALER ACCOUNTS AND ALERT LAW
ENFORCEMENT AND LOOK UP A RARE
GREEN COMMENT WILL BE MAKING
ITS CLOSEST PASS BY EARTH
TONIGHT.
IT WILL BE VISIBLE FOR A FEW
MORE DAYS, BUT ONCE IT
DISAPPEARS, THE GREEN COMET
WON'T BE BACK FOR 50000 YEARS.
AND BEFORE WE GO .
>> PRETTY SWEET GESTURE FROM
THE SAN FRANCISCO.
FORTY NINERS.
THE TEAM SURPRISING THE FAMILY
OF TYRE NICOLS WITH A SIGNED
JERSEY YESTERDAY AS HIS FAMILY
LAID HIM TO REST.
NICHOLS GREW UP IN
THE SACRAMENTO AREA BEFORE
MOVING TO MEMPHIS AND WAS
A LIFELONG NINER FAN.
WELL, THE JERSEY FEATURES
NICHOLS LAST NAME AND THE
NUMBER.
FORTY NINE AUTOGRAPHS OF MANY
STAR PLAYERS CAN EVEN BE FOUND
ON THE BACK THERE, INCLUDING
THE QUARTERBACK, PRETTY WIDE
RECEIVER DUO SAMUEL.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, MANY MORE .
THANKS SO MUCH FOR SHARING
WITH US.
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