ABC News Live: 11 dead, several injured following mass shooting in California

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Transcript for ABC News Live: 11 dead, several injured following mass shooting in California
THERE. YOU'RE SCREAMING ABC NEWS LA. AND HELLO, EVERYONE. I'M KYRA PHILLIPS. GLAD YOU'RE STREAMING WITH US TODAY. AND I'M TERRY MORAN. AND HERE ARE SOME OF THE TOP STORIES WE'RE FOLLOWING NOW ON "ABC NEWS LIVE". THE SEARCH FOR ANSWERS AFTER ANOTHER DEADLY MASS SHOOTING IN AMERICA. THIS TIME AT A LUNAR NEW YEAR CELEBRATION IN CALIFORNIA. WHAT WE'RE LEARNING ABOUT THE SUSPECT, THE VICTIMS AND THE HEROES WHO DISARMED THE GUNMAN. FIVE MEMPHIS POLICE OFFICERS FIRED AFTER THE DEATH OF TERRY NICHOLS FOLLOWING A TRAFFIC STOP. NEW FALLOUT TODAY, INCLUDING HOW NICHOLS FAMILY IS RESPONDING TO BODY CAM VIDEO . AND PRESIDENT BIDEN IS FACING EVEN MORE QUESTIONS OVER HIS HANDLING OF CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS. HOW A NEW DISCOVERY, YET ANOTHER ONE BY THE FBI, COULD EXPAND THIS INVESTIGATION INTO THE PRISON. BUT WE DO BEGIN WITH THAT DEADLY MASS SHOOTING JUST OUTSIDE OF LOS ANGELES. AT LEAST 11 PEOPLE NOW ARE CONFIRMED DEAD, 10 OTHERS INJURED AFTER A SUSPECTED GUNMAN OPENED FIRE IN A DANCE STUDIO IN MONTEREY PARK. SHOTS RINGING OUT AS THE ASIAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY IS CELEBRATING LUNAR NEW YEAR. THE ALLEGED SHOOTER FLED THE SCENE AND ENTERED A SECOND DANCE HALL WHERE STUNNED PATRONS SUCCEED IN DISARMING HIM. BUT HE REMAINED AT LARGE UNTIL POLICE SAY HE WAS FOUND DEAD FROM A SELF-INFLICTED GUNSHOT WOUND . AND TODAY, MONTEREY PARK IS RECOGNIZING THE ACTIONS OF BRANDON. SAY HE'S THE MAN HAILED AS A HERO FOR WRESTLING THE GUN AWAY FROM THE ALLEGED SHOOTER. AT THAT SECOND DANCE HALL. AND OUR MATT RIVERS SPOKE WITH BRANDON ABOUT THAT LIFE SAVING DECISION AT THAT TIME. >> THE FIRST THOUGHT WAS I WAS GOING TO DIE. THIS IS IT. LIKE, DEFINITELY GOING TO MY LIFE'S GOING TO END HERE. AND THEN THE SHOOTER STARTS PREPPING HIS WEAPON AND SOMETHING CAME OVER ME. I HAD THIS REALIZATION THAT I NEEDED TO GRAB HIS WEAPON. I NEEDED TO TAKE CONTROL OF THE SITUATION. RIGHT. WHERE ELSE EVERYBODY WOULD DIE, INCLUDING ME AND MAYBE THE PEOPLE OUTSIDE ALSO. >> SO. SO WHAT DID YOU DO? YOU CAME OVER HERE AND HIS HIS ATTENTION WAS DIVERTED TO HIS WEAPON. HE WAS I THINK HE WAS TRYING TO PREP IT OR CHANGE THE FIRING MODE. OR SOMETHING, BUT HE HE WAS FIDDLING WITH IT A BIT. SO WHAT I DID WAS SIDESTEP A BIT TO HAVE A CLEAR PATH. AND I JUST STARTED RUNNING AND LUNGED AT HIM AND GRABBED THE GUN WITH BOTH MY HANDS. RIGHT HERE. YES, RIGHT HERE. AND THEN YOU EVENTUALLY GO OUT INTO THE POTENTIALLY. >> YES, WE DID HAVE A STRUGGLE . HE WAS TRYING TO PULL AWAY INTO THE LOBBY, SO I HAD TO FOLLOW HIM. RIGHT. SO THERE WASN'T MUCH DISTANCE BETWEEN US SO HE COULD SHOOT ME OR ANYBODY ELSE. >> SO YOU ARE STRUGGLING WITH HIM RIGHT HERE? YES. AND THAT MOMENT, I FEEL LIKE I WAS GOING TO SHOOT ANOTHER PERSON THAT I MIGHT CAUSE A DEATH OF ANOTHER HUMAN BEING. IS VERY SCARY THOUGHT TO THINK ABOUT. I CAN SEE YOU'RE GETTING A LITTLE EMOTIONAL WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT. >> YEAH, AT THAT MOMENT, THERE WERE MANY PEOPLE I WAS THINKING ABOUT, ESPECIALLY WHEN THAT'S FIGHTING. AND I JUST THINK ABOUT EVERYBODY. MY FAMILY, MY FRIENDS, WHAT THEY WOULD BE FEELING LIKE IF I DIDN'T EXIST ANYMORE AND IF I WASN'T HERE. IT WAS VERY IT WAS A VERY TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCE FOR ME. >> SO AS YOU THEN GO , REMARKABLE INTERVIEW FOR A REMARKABLE YOUNG MAN WHO STOOD UP IN THAT MOMENT AND SAVED SO MANY LIVES. OUR THANKS TO MATT RIVERS AND OF COURSE, TO BRANDON TODAY FOR THAT CONVERSATION. WELL, FOR MORE ON THIS SHOOTING, LET'S GO TO ABC NEWS REENA ROY. SHE'S JOINS US LIVE NOW FROM MONTEREY PARK, ALONG WITH ABC NEWS, FORMER NYPD CHIEF OF DETECTIVES ROBERT BOYCE. HE'S AN ABC NEWS CONSULTANT AS WELL. SO, REENA, I JUST WANT TO ASK YOU NOW, WE'RE LEARNING AN 11TH PERSON IS DEAD FROM THE SHOOTINGS. WHAT'S THE STATUS RIGHT NOW OF THE DAY? >> WHAT CAN YOU TELL US ? YEAH, TERRY, THAT UNFORTUNATE NEWS COMING IN JUST A COUPLE OF MOMENTS GO FROM HOSPITAL OFFICIALS. WHAT WE DO KNOW IS THAT ONE OF THE INJURED DIED AT THE HOSPITAL. THE DEATH TOLL RISING TO 11. NOW, THAT 11 PERSON WAS ONE OF THE 10 WHO WERE WOUNDED. POLICE ARRIVING TO THE SCENE HERE ON SATURDAY NIGHT, FINDING MANY OF THE WOUNDED RIGHT HERE IN THIS PARKING LOT IN FRONT OF THE DANCE STUDIO. HERE THAT YOU SEE BEHIND ME WAITING FOR HELP. WE ARE TOLD WITH THAT UPDATE FROM HOSPITAL OFFICIALS THAT ONE MORE PATIENT IS STILL IN SERIOUS CONDITION AND TWO OTHERS ARE STILL RECOVERING. AND REENA ROY, YOU'VE ALSO BEEN LEARNING A LOT ABOUT THE VICTIMS. WE WERE EVEN ABLE TO NAME ONE OF THE VICTIMS AND TALK ABOUT MAY MAY AS SHE WAS CELEBRATING THE LUNAR NEW YEAR AT ONE OF THE DANCE STUDIOS. WHAT MORE HAVE YOU FOUND OUT ABOUT HER, HER FAMILY AND WHAT SHE MEANT TO THE COMMUNITY? RIGHT. SO OUR TEAMS HAVE BEEN SPEAKING TO HER FAMILY. YOU CAN IMAGINE THIS IS JUST SHOCKING AND DEVASTATING. DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO WRAP THEIR HEADS AROUND. SHE HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS YOU SAID. SIXTY FIVE YEAR OLD MAZMANIAN, MAMIE'S FAMILY SAYING SHE LOVED TO COME HERE TO THIS DANCE STUDIO. IN FACT, THIS IS HOW SHE SPENT MOST OF HER WEEKENDS. BUT ON SATURDAY, WE'RE TOLD THAT SHE WAS THE FIRST PERSON WHO WAS SHOT. SHE WAS ACTUALLY IN HER CAR IN THIS PARKING LOT RIGHT HERE WITH HER DANCE PARTNER, HER NIECE, TELLING US THAT HER DANCE PARTNER WAS ONE OF HER BEST FRIENDS. THEY WERE LEAVING THE DANCE STUDIO. THAT IS WHEN THE ALLEGED SHOOTER APPROACHED THE CAR, FIRED MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE SHOTS AT HER DANCE PARTNER, WE'RE TOLD BY HER FAMILY, TRIED TO SAVE HER, BUT IT WAS TOO LATE. AND HER FAMILY JUST REMEMBERS HER AS AN AMAZING AUNT, AS A SISTER, AS A FRIEND. HER NIECE SPOKE WITH ABC, AS I MENTIONED. TAKE A LISTEN. SHE WAS EXCITED TO TO SHE ACTUALLY WAS A LITTLE BIT LATE TO HER DANCE CLASS THAT NIGHT BECAUSE SHE KNEW THAT I WAS BRINGING MY TODDLER OVER TO THE HOUSE. SO SHE STAYED A LITTLE BIT LONGER JUST TO PLAY WITH HIM. WHERE SHE LEFT TO GO DANCING. AND WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN HER LAST DANCE JUST REINFORCES THAT SHE'S A REALLY CARING PERSON. AND SHE SHE SEES ME LIKE HER OWN CHILD. SHE HAS NO NO CHILDREN. SHE SEES HER OWN. AND , YOU KNOW, WATCH HOW AS HER GRANDCHILD, PRETTY MUCH, UM, IT'S YOU KNOW, THERE'S THERE'S IT'S REALLY SPECIAL FOR SOMEONE LIKE THAT TO JUST BE SO, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, SELFLESS. YEAH. JUST SO HEARTBREAKING TO HEAR THESE STORIES COME OUT AS WE LEARN THE NAMES AND THE FACES OF THESE VICTIMS. HER NIECE TELLING US THAT THEIR FAMILY TRADITIONALLY CELEBRATES LUNAR NEW YEAR TO THE FULLEST. AND NOW THIS YEAR, THIS TIME AROUND, IT'S BECOME ONE OF THE HARDEST SITUATIONS THEY'VE EVER HAD. TO FACE. GUYS, REENA ROY THAT IS JUST SUCH A SAD STORY. >> AND BOB, HERE WE ARE AGAIN, RIGHT. HEARING THE PAIN IN THE FAMILIES OF THE VICTIMS, STRUGGLING TO COMPREHEND WHY THAT IS AN ALMOST UNANSWERABLE QUESTION. BUT I DO WANT TO BRING UP SOMETHING LAW ENFORCEMENT SOURCES ARE TELLING US THAT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS ONE OF THE SCENARIOS THEY'RE LOOKING INTO AS THE MOTIVE FOR THIS RAMPAGE. WHAT WHAT KIND OF FINDINGS COULD LEAD THEM TO BELIEVE THIS IS THE CASE? >> DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO YOU? WHAT DO YOU THINK IT DOES? RIGHT NOW? WE'RE TRYING TO PUT THIS A PSYCHOLOGICAL PROFILE OF THIS INDIVIDUAL TOGETHER TO SEE WHAT MOTIVATED HIM TO DO THIS UNSPEAKABLE VIOLENCE THAT KEEPS GETTING WORSE. THE NEWS FROM OUT THERE. SO SO RIGHT NOW, WE'RE GOING TO GO TALK TO EVERYBODY. HE IS IN CONTACT WITH ANY REPORTS HE MADE THAT THE POLICE, IF HE WAS IN CRISIS, ANY KIND OF MEDS HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN ON . TALK TO HIS WIFE, HIS EX-WIFE, I SHOULD SAY, AND OTHER PEOPLE TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON IN HIS LIFE THAT CAUSED HIM TO DO THIS IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND TO GET THAT OUT. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE ELSE GOING THROUGH THE SAME CRISIS, SO THAT'S IMPORTANT. THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. ALSO, HOW LONG DID HE PLANNED THIS EVENT? AND THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SEE EXACTLY WHEN HE PURCHASED THOSE GUNS AND GET THOSE EXTENDED MAGAZINE TO USE THE HIGH CAPACITY MAGAZINES. THESE ARE ALL CAUSES OF PROFILE . EXACTLY HOW THIS PERSON DEVOLVED POSSIBLY INTO MENTAL ILLNESS. TO DO THIS. SO THAT'S WHERE THAT'S WHERE THEY ARE RIGHT NOW IS JUST PUTTING PUTTING PIECES TOGETHER. >> AND BOBBO STATE AUTHORITIES AND FBI ARE INVOLVED IN THIS INVESTIGATION. WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR DIGGING INTO? IN ADDITION TO THAT? AND I THINK, BOB , ALSO WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT THAT VIDEO OF THE SWAT TEAM THERE AND HOW THEY HAD CONVERGED ON BOTH SIDES OF THAT VAN . I WAS JUST NOTICING THE TACTICS AND HOW THEY CARRIED OUT APPROACHING THAT VAN . NOT SURE WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE DEALING WITH . DO YOU WANT TO JUST POINT OUT EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE DOING THERE AND SORT OF STRATEGIZING HOW TO MAKE THE NEXT MOVE? >> SURE. SO THOSE ARE TACTICAL, BILL . THE CALL BEARCATS, THEIR ARMORED VEHICLES. AND THERE'S A LOT OF SOMETIMES NOISE ABOUT POLICE OFFICERS HAVING THOSE POLICE DEPARTMENTS, HAVING THOSE DEVICES THAT YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE PUT TO GOOD USE NECESSARY, ESPECIALLY IN TODAY'S ENVIRONMENT, WITH ALL THESE MASS SHOOTINGS, YOU REALLY NEED THEM. SO AS A TACTICAL APPROACH, THEY WEREN'T ON EITHER SIDE AND PREVENTED THAT CAR FROM LEAVING. IT'S UNCLEAR RIGHT NOW WHAT TOOK HIS OWN LIFE. SO WE'LL HAVE TO GO FURTHER. BUT THEY WERE AT A SAFE SPOT. RIGHT NOW. THEY'RE AMASSING THERE TO SEE IF ANYTHING HAPPENS THERE. THEY'RE PROTECTED BY THAT ARMORED VEHICLE. AND THERE'S A THIRD ARMORED VEHICLE THAT COMES UP AS WELL. AND SECURES THE DRIVER'S SIDE. THE PASSENGER'S I'M SORRY, THE DRIVER'S SIDE DOOR IN CASE ANYTHING ELSE HAPPENS. GUYS, HE'S TAKING THIS. THIS IS SUICIDE. SO WE REALLY DON'T KNOW EXACTLY. DUNN IS FROM A DIFFERENT POLICE DEPARTMENT, PROBABLY WHO HAS THE INVESTIGATION AND THAT AT THAT POINT, THEY'RE GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH THE OTHER LUIS MARTINEZ. LOOK, WHEN YOU'VE GOT A SUSPECTED MASS SHOOTER ON THE LOOSE, IT TAKES ALL AGENCIES, ALL FORCES TO CONVERGE. REENA ROY, BOB WOODRUFF, THANK YOU BOTH SO MUCH. NOW, THE FAMILY OF TERRY NICHOLS WILL WATCH THAT GUT WRENCHING BODY CAM FOOTAGE TODAY THAT SHOWS A DEADLY ARREST THAT ACTUALLY LED TO HIS DEATH. AND AS THIS HAPPENS, ALL FIVE MEMPHIS POLICE OFFICERS INVOLVED IN HIS ARREST HAVE NOW BEEN FIRED. ABC NEWS SENIOR NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT STEVE OSUNSAMI HAS THE LATEST FOR US . >> HI, STEVE . THE FAMILY OF TIREE NICHOLS IS MEETING WITH POLICE AND GETTING THEIR FIRST LOOK AT THE POLICE VIDEO. IT SHOWS HOW THEIR SON WAS BEATEN BEFORE HE WAS HOSPITALIZED. HE DIED FROM HIS INJURIES JUST A FEW DAYS LATER. WE'RE NOT SURE WHEN POLICE WILL PUBLICLY RELEASED THE VIDEO, BUT THE PROSECUTORS IN THIS CASE SAY THEY HOPE TO DO AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, BUT NOT BEFORE THEY GET TO THE POINT WHERE IT MIGHT JEOPARDIZE WHAT THEY ARE DOING. THEIR CASE THIS WEEKEND, MEMPHIS POLICE FINALLY IDENTIFIED AND FIRED THE FIVE POLICE OFFICERS INVOLVED IN THE INCIDENT, WHO IN THIS CASE HAPPEN TO ALL BE AFRICAN-AMERICAN. NICHOLS WAS PULLED OVER BY POLICE JANUARY 7TH. POLICE SAY THERE WAS WHAT THEY CALL A CONFRONTATION. THEY THEN SAY HE THEN RAN FROM POLICE AND THAT THERE WAS ANOTHER CONFRONTATION. AT THAT POINT, HE COMPLAINED THAT HE HAD TROUBLE BREATHING. HIS FAMILY HAS BEEN SHARING THIS HOSPITAL BEDSIDE PHOTO FOR THE YOUNG MAN DIED ASKING WHAT TYPE OF CONFRONTATION AFTER A TRAFFIC STOP COULD HAVE LED TO THESE KIND OF INJURIES. POLICE SAY THE FIVE OFFICERS WHO WERE FIRED USED EXCESSIVE FORCE AND FAILED IN THEIR DUTY TO RENDER AID. LOCAL PROSECUTORS ARE LOOKING INTO THIS AND SO IS THE US DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE KYRA. >> ALL RIGHT, STEVE , THANKS SO MUCH. AND THE FAMILY'S HOLDING A PRESS CONFERENCE RIGHT NOW. WE ARE MONITORING THAT. SEE WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY AND WE'LL BRING YOU UP TO DATE. COMING UP, THE QUESTIONS AND DOCUMENT DISCOVERIES JUST KEEP COMING FOR PRESIDENT . RIGHT NOW, THE INVESTIGATION INTO CLASSIFIED MATERIAL COULD BE EXPANDING RIGHT AFTER THIS. . WATCH AMERICA'S NUMBER ONE NEWS WHENEVER YOU WANT IT. WHEREVER YOU ARE, ANY TIME "ABC NEWS LIVE" STREET DAVID MUIR. WELL, THE FAMILY OF TIREE NICHOLS AND HIS CIVIL RIGHTS ATTORNEY , BEN CRUMP, ARE ADDRESSING REPORTERS AFTER VIEWING THE FOOTAGE FROM TERRY NICHOLS DEATH FROM A TRAFFIC STOP AND SPEAKING WITH MEMPHIS OFFICIALS EARLIER THIS MONTH. HERE'S THE STORY. TERRY NICHOLS DIED JUST DAYS AFTER HE WAS CRITICALLY INJURED DURING A TRAFFIC STOP BY MEMPHIS POLICE. THE VICTIM'S FAMILY SAYS POLICE BRUTALIZED HIM BEYOND RECOGNITION. FIVE MEMPHIS POLICE OFFICERS HAVE BEEN FIRED. SO LET'S LISTEN IN. THIS IS BEN CRUMP, FAMILY ATTORNEY . >> WE ALSO HAVE KAREEM LEE, WHO HAS BEEN THE FAMILY'S AS THEY CONTINUED ON THIS JOURNEY, HAS BEEN WITH ACTIVISTS, THE PEOPLE WHO DID NOT LET US FORGET TERRI NICKERSON. CAN WE GIVE THE ACTIVISTS AND THE COMMUNITY LEADERS A GREAT ROUND OF APPLAUSE? AS AS MISS RABBI WALE'S TERRI'S MOTHER SAID, WE'LL FIGHT YOU ALL. WE WOULDN'T BE HERE. AND SO WE NEVER FORGET THAT YOU ALL IN THE COMMUNITY ARE THE FIRST DEFENDERS. >> YOU ARE THE FIRST RESPONDERS. FOR JUSTICE FOR OUR PEOPLE. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH TO YOU ALL. AND WE ALSO HAVE PRAYERS HERE WITH US. TERRY NICHOLS MOTHER, MISS RABBI WALE'S TARRIES FATHER, MR. RODNEY WALES, TYREE'S GRANDMOTHER, MISS LUCILLE WASHINGTON. >> TARRIES, AUNT MISS ADRIANA WALE'S UNFORTUNATELY, HIS SISTER AND BROTHERS HAD TO GO BACK TO CALIFORNIA, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN HERE FOR ALMOST TWO WEEKS AWAY FROM THEIR JOBS. A FAMILY BECAUSE THEY CAN'T BELIEVE THEIR BROTHER IS GONE. AND THAT IS HIS SISTER, QUIJADA. HIS BROTHER JAMAL AND HIS BROTHER MICHAEL. THEY KNOW WHAT A GOOD LITTLE BROTHER HE WAS. THEY KNOW WHAT A GOOD FATHER THEIR BROTHER WAS. AND THEY CERTAINLY KNOW WHAT A GREAT SON TERRY WAS. BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR THAT FROM THE PEOPLE WHO KNEW TERRY BEST, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE MOST APPROPRIATE TO GIVE HIM A VOICE . AND THAT IS GOING TO BE HIS MOTHER AND FATHER WHO ARE GOING TO TERRY ARTHUR, ATTORNEY ROBERT JUJU CHANG, ATTORNEY TURNER AND TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE WERE SHOWN TODAY. THEY'RE GOING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT NOT TERRY, NOT TERRY. I MEAN, HE WAS A GOOD YOUNG MAN. A GOOD YOUNG MAN. EVERYBODY FROM FEDEX, HIS COWORKERS, ALL HIS SKATEBOARDING COMMUNITY, ALL THE PEOPLE WHO WERE PHOTOGRAPHY CLASS WITH HALE. >> I MEAN, THIS WAS A GOOD KID. HIS MOTHER SAID THE THINGS THAT STOOD OUT TO HER ABOUT WHAT WAS HIS FOCUS IN LIFE, SKATEBOARDING. AND WE SHARE A FEW VIDEO OF HOW GOOD IT WAS SKATEBOARDING. >> HE WAS PHOTOGRAPHY AND COMPUTERS AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, BEING A FATHER. >> HE LOVED HIS SON . >> EVERYTHING HE WAS TRYING TO DO WAS TO BETTER HIMSELF AS A FATHER FOR HIS FOUR YEAR OLD SON . AND YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR THEM TALK ABOUT THAT. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT NOW IS THE VIDEO THAT WE JUST WATCHED AND HOW HIS MOTHER COULDN'T GET THROUGH THE FIRST MINUTE OF IT. >> BECAUSE, AS TERRY SAID, WHAT DID I DO? THAT WAS HIS QUESTION. WHAT DID I DO? >> YOU ASKED. WE CAN'T GET INTO SO MANY DETAILS BECAUSE THE INVESTIGATION IS GOING INTO THE ACTIVIST. >> I WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WE WILL SEE WHAT THEY DID TO TERRY, BUT SEE WHAT FROM THE MOLA LENGHI PATIENT FOR WHAT, TWO WEEKS AS THEY FINISH THE VIDEO. ALSO, THE TENNESSEE BUREAU OF INVESTIGATIONS AND FBI ALL SAID THEY PROMISE ONE TO TWO WEEKS THIS VIDEO, ALL THE VIDEO THEY GOT WILL BE RELEASED. THEY JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN GIVE THIS FAMILY WHAT THEY WANT MOST AND THAT IS JUSTICE. >> BUT WHAT WE CAN TELL YOU ABOUT THE VIDEO IS IT IS APPALLING. IT IS DEPLORABLE. IT IS HEINOUS. REVENUE TO WHAT WAS YOUR VIOLENT, VIOLENT, VIOLENT ? >> IT IS VERY TROUBLESOME ON EVERY LEVEL. BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF YET AGAIN, WE'RE SEEING EVIDENCE OF WHAT HAPPENS TO BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE FROM SIMPLE TRAFFIC STOPS, SIMPLE TRAFFIC STOPS, YOU SHOULD NOT BE KILLED BECAUSE OF A SIMPLE TRAFFIC STOP. >> AND WE HAVE TO SAY TO AMERICA, HOWEVER, YOU WOULD TREAT OUR WHITE BROTHERS AND SISTERS WHEN YOU HAVE A TRAFFIC STOP WITH THEM, WORK ,TREAT US BLACK AND BROWN CITIZENS THE SAME WAY. HEY, MAN, THE SAME WAY, WHITE WAY. AND I MISS WALES. LET THEM HAVE IT. I MEAN, SHE WAS PASSIONATE THAT YOU CAN'T KEEP KILLING OUR YOUNG BLACK PEOPLE OVER TRAFFIC STOPS. AND SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S JUSTICE ATTARI BECAUSE WE WANT TO PREVENT THIS FROM EVER HAPPENING AGAIN TO ANYBODY ELSE IN MEMPHIS, TENNESSEE. AND SHELBY COUNTY IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. WE DON'T WANT NEXT WEEK TO SEE ANOTHER VIDEO OF A BLACK PERSON LOSING THEIR LIFE BECAUSE OF A TRAFFIC VIOLATION. >> HOW MANY MORE ? HOW MANY MORE ? YOU KNOW, WE MET WILL REEVE, MR. RICK KLEIN , AND HE OFFERED HIS CONDOLA AND PRAYERS TO THE FAMILY AND I PROMISE THAT TRANSPARENCY AND PROBABLY MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE MET WITH CHIEF DAVIS, THE POLICE CHIEF, A BLACK WOMAN, A BLACK MOTHER, WHO WAS VERY EMOTIONAL WHEN SHE TALKED WITH MISS WELLS. RIGHT. KAREEM, SHE SHE SAID, I'M NOT OFTEN MY RESPONSE AS A CHIEF. I'M OFTEN THEM AS A MOTHER. WHO GOT BLACK CHILDREN. AND SO SHE WAS HAD TEARS IN HER EYES, JUST LIKE MISS WELLS HAD TEARS, EYES. AND SHE SAID THAT SHE WAS NOT PROUD OF WHAT WE WERE ABOUT TO SEE ON THAT VIDEO. SHE SAID SHE WAS PROUD OF MANY THINGS THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT DID IN THE COMMUNITY FOR TRYING TO PROTECT THE COMMUNITY, SERVE THE COMMUNITY. BUT THAT VIDEO, SHE SAID SHE WAS NOT PROUD OF WHAT WE WERE ABOUT TO SEE AND WHAT WE SAW YOU. REGRETTABLY, REMINDED US OF RODNEY KING VIDEO. REGRETTABLY, AND LIKE RODNEY KING, TERRY MORAN SURVIVE. AND SO WE ARE HERE TO DEMAND JUSTICE FOR TYREE. AND I KNOW THE OFFICERS WERE AFRICAN-AMERICAN OFFICERS. AND I'VE ALREADY BEEN GETTING THE QUESTION ABOUT WHAT IS MY RESPONSE TO THAT? AND IT IS VERY SIMPLE WHAT I HAVE COME TO LEARN FROM DOING THIS CIVIL RIGHTS WORK. AGAIN, IS EXCESSIVE FORCE POLICING. IS THAT IT IS NOT THE RACE OF THE POLICE OFFICER. THAT IS THE DETERMINING FACTOR OF THE AMOUNT OF EXCESS FORCE THAT WOULD BE EXERTED. IT IS THE RACE OF THE CITIZEN. AND SO WE HAVE TO HAVE ACCOUNTABILITY NO MATTER WHO TRAMPLES ON THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF OUR CITIZENS. AND IT IS IT IS SO REGRETTABLE THAT THEY CAN THINK OF TERRY AS THEIR BROTHER BECAUSE YOU WANT TO BELIEVE THAT IF HE THOUGHT OF ME AS YOUR BROTHER, THAT YOU WANT A DEAD ATTARI. AND SO IT IS VERY HEARTFELT THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION TO SAY THAT NO. YES, ABOUT THE CITIZENS, THE BLACK AND BROWN CITIZENS, WHO GET EXCESSIVE FORCE BY POLICE OFFICERS, WHETHER THEY ARE BLACK, WHITE OR BROWN , AND WE HAVE TO STOP. THERE HAS TO STOP. IT HAS TO STOP. IT HAS TO STOP. AND SO I THE VIEW HER TRIMLINE NEXT TO ME AND WE HAVE PROMISED MISS ROWBY AND WALES, WHO SAW HER, HER BABY BOY, HER BABY BOY. >> WHO LIVED WITH HER, WHO WENT TO WORK WITH HIS DADDY EVERY DAY AT FEDEX, WHO CAME HOME FOR LUNCH AT SEVEN O'CLOCK FOR THEIR LUNCH BREAK COS THEY WORK SECOND SHIFT FROM TWO TO TWO TO TEN THIRTY AND SHE WILL HAVE THEIR MEALS PREPARED. >> SHE IS JUST SO HEARTBROKEN EVERY DAY, BUT ESPECIALLY AT SEVEN O'CLOCK WHERE SHE IS EXPECTED, HER HUSBAND AND HER SON TO COME TO THAT DOOR ON THEIR LUNCH BREAK. BUT ONLY HER HUSBAND COMES AND SHE IS STILL WAITING FOR HER SON TO COME TO THAT DOOR. IT IS DEVASTATING ON EVERY LEVEL. SO EVER BRIGHT ATTORNEY ROB MARCIANO FAUCI TO ADDRESS YOU, PLEASE CONTINUE TO KEEP THIS FAMILY IN YOUR PRAYERS, ESPECIALLY AT THIS BROKEN HEARTED MOTHER WHO SHE JUST CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY MY BABY, WHY MY BABY. >> NOW YOU ARE HERE FOR MY MY GREAT CACHAO, GREAT LAWYER, ATTORNEY TONY EM NGUYEN. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. AS BEN SAID, MY NAME IS ANTONIO FAUCI. I WORK WITH BEN CRUMP. THERE IS NOBODY BETTER IN THIS COUNTRY TO TALK ABOUT THE CAUSE ,THE STATE OF WHAT HAPPENS TO YOUNG BROWN BLACK MEN WHEN THEY HAVE CONFRONTATIONS WITH POLICE. LET ME SAY THIS ABOUT TIREE, ABOUT WHAT WE SAW IN THAT VIDEO. WE'RE HERE NOT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT A GREAT BOY HE WAS AND WHAT A GOOD SON HE WAS TO HIS MOTHER. BUT LET ME TELL YOU WHAT HE WAS IN THAT VIDEO. HE WAS DEFENSELESS. THE ENTIRE TIME HE WAS A HUMAN PINATA FOR THOSE POLICE OFFICERS. >> IT WAS AN ON ADULTS RATED, UNABASHED, NONSTOP BEATING OF THIS YOUNG BOY FOR THREE MINUTES. OH, MY GOD. THAT IS WHAT WE SAW IN THAT VIDEO. BEN TOLD YOU WHAT WE SAW. >> NOT ONLY WAS IT VIOLENT, IT WAS SAVAGE. >> OH, MAN. WHY? WHERE WAS THE PROPORTIONALITY THAT IS REQUIRED IN ORDER FOR THOSE OFFICERS TO USE THAT TYPE OF FORCE AGAINST A DEFENSELESS YOUNG MAN? AND WHERE DID HE WANT TO GO? HE WANTED TO GO HOME. HE WAS TRYING TO RUN HOME BECAUSE HE KNEW THAT'S WHERE HE COULD BE SAFE. WITH HIS MOTHER. HE WANTED TO BE SAFE , BUT HE COULDN'T BE FROM THE POLICE OFFICERS. >> WHO SOMEHOW THIS IS WHAT WE KNOW, I THINK ANTICIPATED THE VIOLENCE WHEN THEY INITIALLY MADE THE TRAFFIC STOP. AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE KNOW THESE OFFICERS, AT LEAST SOME OF THEM WERE FROM THE ORGANIZED CRIME UNIT. >> THERE WERE AN UNMARKED CARS . >> WHY ARE THEY CONDUCTING TRAFFIC STOPS? YOU GET IT. >> YOU GET IT. THIS IS PRETEXTUAL. THIS IS A PRETEXTUAL TRAFFIC STOP. WHICH LET'S CALL IT WHAT IT IS . IT'S A RACIST TRAFFIC STOP IS WHAT IT IS . >> THE PROPORTIONALITY WAS GONE. THESE POLICE OFFICERS FELT IN THEIR MIND THEY KNEW THEY COULD GET AWAY WITH THIS SORT OF VIOLENCE. WHY? BECAUSE THERE'S A SENSE OF IMPUNITY. THERE'S A SENSE OF CULTURE WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, NOT ONLY HERE, BUT ACROSS THE COUNTRY, THAT THEY WILL HIDE FOR THEMSELVES. THEY WILL COVER UP FOR THEMSELVES. AND I LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I'M SORRY I DID THIS. I COVERED UP MY PAPER AND THE HOLY BIBLE, BUT WE ARE HERE TODAY TO SAY TO YOU, SO HELP ME GOD . WHEN IS THIS GOING TO STOP? HEY, MAN, WE MUST STOP THIS AND WE MUST STOP IT THROUGH THE ACTIONS OF BEN. WE MUST STOP IT THROUGH THE COURAGE OF THE PARENTS. WE MUST STOP IT THROUGH THE COURAGE THAT WE TAKE TO THE COURTS. THERE ARE MANY, MANY WAYS TO DO THIS. >> WE MUST STOP THIS. I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT IT BECAUSE IT WAS SO IMPORTANT. WE HAD MEETING TODAY WITH WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. AND WE LEFT THAT MEETING, I THINK, VERY CONFIDENTLY SAYING THAT WE'RE ENCOURAGED THAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND WE TRUST THAT AND LET'S TRUST THAT. SO LET'S PLEASE EXERCISE PATIENCE UNTIL THAT VIDEO COMES OUT. AND THEN YOU MAY BE ABLE TO LOOK AND YOU CAN BE YOUR OWN JUDGE OF WHAT WE SAY OF WHAT WE ARE SAYING TODAY. WHETHER IT BEARS ANY TRUTH AND THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT YOUR VOICES SHOULD BE HEARD. >> YOU SHOULD BE HEARD. IT WOULD BE SHAMEFUL IF YOU'RE NOT HEARD BECAUSE. OH, MY GOSH, THAT'S PART OF THE CONSTITUTION, RIGHT? FIRST AMENDMENT, RIGHT. FOURTH AMENDMENT RIGHTS. >> WE ARE TO BE FREE FROM UNLAWFUL USE OF FORCE. >> WE ARE TO BE FREE FROM EXCESSIVE USE OF FORCE. WHERE WAS THIS YOUNG MAN'S CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT THAT DAY? WELL, WE'RE NOT GOING TO STOP OUR RIGHTS FROM BEING HEARD ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO TIREE. SO I'D LIKE TO CLOSE. I KNOW. OKAY, WELL, I COULD TALK A LOT MORE ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, BUT WE ARE GOING WE ARE CONDUCTING OUR OWN CIVIL INVESTIGATION. >> WE ARE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD VERY SOON, AS SOON AS WE CAN WITH LITIGATION. >> THIS IS A SECTION NINETEEN EIGHTY THREE CASE AND WE ARE GOING TO DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO ENSURE THAT THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN. >> WHAT HAPPENED TO TIREE SHOULD BE THE END. >> NOT ONLY ARE WE LOOKING FOR FOR JUSTICE, BUT WE'RE LOOKING FOR CHANGES. WE HAVE TO DEMAND POLICY CHANGES MUST. SO I THANK YOU, BEN. FAMILY, THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THE TRUST IN US . >> WE WILL SERVE YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ATTORNEY ROBERT NEUTRA FOR YOUR ADVOCACY. WE ALL GOT TO BE ADVOCATES. WE ALL HAVE TO BE ADVOCATES. WE MAN, WE DON'T KNOW. I CAN'T EVEN FATHOM WAS GOING TO DIE HERE. YOU KNOW, I HEAR FROM OFFICERS ADRENALINE IS PUMPING THIS STUFF. BUT AT SOME POINT IT BECOMES ABOUT HUMANITY. YES. HUMANITY FOR YOUR FELLOW HUMAN BEING. AND SO I JUST THINK ABOUT WHEN HE HE SAID, I'M JUST TRYING TO GO HOME. YEAH. AT WHAT POINT DOES THE HUMANITY COME IN AND SAY, THIS DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A BAD PERSON? I MEAN, I JUST WANT TO GO HOME ? OH, YES. AND THEN I , I DON'T KNOW IF THIS MAKES MISS ROWBOTTOM FEEL ANY BETTER, BUT THE LAST WORDS ON THE VIDEO, HE'S ONLY ABOUT EIGHTY TWO . >> ALL RIGHT. WELL, THERE YOU HAVE ATTORNEY BEN CRUMP, WHO IS WITH THE FAMILY OF TIREE NICHOLS. HE'S A YOUNG MAN WHO WAS TWENTY NINE YEARS OLD, WHO WAS INVOLVED IN A TRAFFIC STOP IN MEMPHIS, TENNESSEE, ON JANUARY THE 7TH. THERE WAS SOME KIND OF CONFRONTATION. THE YOUNG MAN WAS IN THE HOSPITAL FOR THREE DAYS AND DIED. THE FAMILY HAS SHARED A PHOTOGRAPH OF HIS CONDITION IN THE HOSPITAL. AND ONE OF THE REASONS THIS HAS BECOME THE STORY, IT HAS IS THAT THE MEMPHIS POLICE DEPARTMENT REVIEWED THE BODY CAM FOOTAGE AND FIRED ALL FIVE OFFICERS INVOLVED FOR WHAT THE MEMPHIS POLICE DEPARTMENT SAY WAS AN EGREGIOUS USE OF FORCE. THE DETAILS AS TO WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED ARE STILL COMING OUT. BUT WHAT IS HAPPENING TODAY IS THE FAMILY OF TERRY NICHOLS IS PREPARING THEMSELVES NOW TO LOOK AT THE BODY CAM FOOTAGE OF WHAT HAPPENED TO THEIR BELOVED SON WITH A HAMMER. THIS IS A MAJOR STORY IN THIS PART OF THE COUNTRY AND A STORY THAT, ALAS, YOU KNOW, WE ARE FAMILIAR WITH ACROSS THE COUNTRY USED TO POLICE VIOLENCE AGAINST ANOTHER AGAINST MINORITIES, AGAINST BLACK MEN IN PARTICULAR. AND ATTORNEY BEN CRUMP SAID ALL FIVE OFFICERS ARE BLACK. BUT AS BEN CRUMP SAID, THE FACTS IN THIS COUNTRY ARE THAT IT'S NOT THE RACE OF THEM. POLICE OFFICERS. IT HAD IT. IT IS OFTEN THE RACE OF THE CITIZEN. NOW THAT DETERMINES THE DEGREE OF THE USE OF FORCE. FOR MORE ON THIS, LET'S BRING IN ABC NEWS CONTRIBUTOR AND RETIRED NYPD CHIEF OF DETECTIVES BOYCE. BOB , WHAT DO YOU MAKE FIRST OF THAT, BIG POINT, WHAT BEN CRUMP SAID AS AS A VETERAN POLICE OFFICER, SOMEBODY WHO HAS WORKED FOR CHANGE WITHIN THE SYSTEM, IS HE RIGHT THAT THAT WHETHER THE OFFICERS, WHATEVER COLOR, WHATEVER BACKGROUND THE OFFICERS MIGHT HAVE, WE ALL HAVE THIS? WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY WHERE BLACK MEN ARE THOUGHT OF AND PORTRAYED IN A CERTAIN WAY AND THAT THAT CAN INCREASE THE DANGER THAT THEY HAVE WHEN THEY ENCOUNTER THE POLICE. >> WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT STORY? I THINK IT'S ENTIRELY APPROPRIATE, NUMBER ONE , TO SHOW THE FAMILY THE VIDEO BEFORE IT GOES PUBLIC. YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE A LEVEL OF THE NEWS. I THINK WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS. MR. CRUMP SAID IN THE IN THE POST, FLOYD, ARE WE ARE. AND NOW YOU SEE THE POLICE CHIEF WHO IS CHIEF DAVIS HAS AS WELL. SHE CALLS IT EGREGIOUS IN NATURE. SO MUCH SO. YOU SPOKE TO THE FAMILY PERSONALLY AND ALL OFFICERS WHO WERE AT THAT SCENE ARE ACCOUNTABLE. SO THE CHARGES ARE FAILURE TO INTERVENE ON EXCESSIVE FORCE IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND DISAPPOINTMENT, SAY THAT FAILURE TO RENDER AID AS WELL. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF THE FIVE OFFICERS WERE ACTUALLY , YOU KNOW, DOING EXCESSIVE FORCE. IT SOUNDS PRETTY BRUTAL WHEN 10% AND YES, TO YOUR LARGER POINT, IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER EXACTLY. IT SEEMS TO BE THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF THESE INCIDENTS HAPPENING TO PEOPLE OF COLOR. >> I AGREE WITH YOU. IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE THAT IT DOESN'T SPEAK WELL OF ENFORCEMENT, OF ALL THE TRAINING AT ALL. >> HARD WORK GOING ON . SO I THINK THIS IS THIS IS WAS WELL DONE IN A DIRE CIRCUMSTANCE HERE, PUTTING THIS INFORMATION OUT AND GETTING OUT IN FRONT OF THIS. REMEMBER HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING INTO THIS THIS TENNESSEE BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION HAS THE CASE WAS ALSO BEING LOOKED AT BY THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, THE DISTRICT LOCAL DISTRICT ATTORNEY , AND , OF COURSE, THE FBI. SO IT'S AN APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF RESPONSE TO INVESTIGATE THING. AND I WOULD AGREE FOR THE MOST PART, MR. SAID, IT HAPPENS TOO OFTEN TO A CERTAIN ELEMENT TO A CERTAIN SECTION OF OUR SOCIETY. >> IT WAS INTERESTING, BEN BROUGHT UP RODNEY KING, THAT SORT OF THAT TRIGGERED A CONVERSATION BETWEEN ME AND TERRY. WE REMEMBER THAT. WE REMEMBER COVERING THE DEATH OF RODNEY KING AND EVERYTHING THAT FOLLOWED AFTER THAT. YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENCES THAT WAS WHITE COPS ON A ON A BLACK MAN. THIS IS BLACK MAN ON A ON A BLACK MAN. BUT THE SIMILARITIES ARE LIKE RODNEY KING. WE DIDN'T SEE THE WHAT LED UP TO THAT BEATING DOESN'T JUSTIFY ANYTHING. BUT THERE'S ALWAYS MORE TO THE STORY. SO WHAT ARE WHAT ARE WE STILL MISSING HERE, BOB , BECAUSE WE STILL REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT CAUSED THIS CONFRONTATION. WERE THESE FIVE POLICE OFFICERS THAT WERE JUST REALLY BAD OFFICERS AND BEAT THIS YOUNG MAN TO THE POINT THAT THEY DID. AND THEN HE DIED? >> OR ARE WE MISSING SOMETHING HERE? LOOK, WE'RE MISSING A LOT. WE DON'T HAVE A MEDICAL EXAMINER'S REPORT, SO I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO SEE THOSE WHO EXACTLY WAS IT BLUNT WAS TRAUMA. AND SO YOU'RE MORE THAN LIKELY. YES, HE SEEMS TO BE A HEALTHY YOUNG MAN, LIKE I CAN SAY, AND THE HARD WORKING WOMAN AS SO WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT TRIGGERED THIS EXCESSIVE FORCE. WE SHOULD KNOW THAT IN THE COMING WEEKS, ONCE THEY RELEASED THE VIDEO, SAY AND I THINK THEY KNOW THAT ALREADY, WHAT WHAT REALLY DROVE THESE OFFICERS TO GET THAT IN RACHEL SCOTT HAS HAPPENED. AND I'D LIKE TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT MR. CRUMP WAS TALKING ABOUT WHEN IT WAS MR. MOLA LENGHI MARY BRUCE ROBIN ROBERTS MINUTE VIDEO OF EXCESSIVE FORCE. EXACTLY. WHAT WAS DONE. AND THEN WE'LL KNOW MORE GOING FORWARD. AGAIN, THIS IS MR. CRUMP AND MR. MARY BRUCE TELLING MY STORY. I WANT TO SEE THE VIDEO. I WANT TO HEAR WHAT THE DEPARTMENT OF TENNESSEE BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION IS SAYING. THE FBI. SO A LOT MORE IS COMING ON THIS. BUT RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS JUST TERRIBLE. >> AND THE WHOLE NOTION IS OBVIOUSLY POLICE OFFICERS, YOU KNOW, THESE GUYS WERE AN ANTI GANG, YOU KNOW, INDICATION THAT TERRY AND TERRY NICHOLS WAS PART OF ANYTHING LIKE THAT. >> BUT THAT'S A TOUGH JOB. RIGHT? YOU'RE OUT THERE ON THE FRONT LINES TRYING TO KEEP THE COMMUNITY SAFE . AND SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS. HOW MUCH OF IT IS IS TRAINING. BUT CAN I USE THE JURY WILL BE ASKED IF THERE ARE CRIMINAL CHARGES TO SECOND GUESS OFFICERS ESSENTIALLY IN THE SITUATION. >> BUT IS THIS ALSO STATEMENT ON CAN CAN YOU TRAIN AWAY THIS PROBLEM TO SOME DEGREE IN OUR COUNTRY? >> I BELIEVE IN TRAINING. I'VE BEEN TRAINED AND I'M A BIG, BIG PROPONENT OF IT. SO THE TRAINING HERE IS WHEN WHEN YOU'RE WHEN YOU'RE FROM A YOUNG POLICE OFFICER. I WAS TOLD I REALLY GOT TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR PARTNER FROM SOMEONE ELSE, HURTING HIM AND ALSO HURTING HIMSELF BY DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS. AND THAT WAS THAT WAS BASIC TRAINING THAT I GOT LIKE MINE. I THINK WE GOT AWAY FROM THAT A LITTLE BIT. SO QUITE A BIT, ACTUALLY . SO I THINK WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS HUU CAN TRAN THIS HUU CAN TRAN STUFF. SOMEONE HAS TO HAVE A COOL HEAD HERE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT PRECIPITATED THE YOUNG MAN TO RUN OR WHY THAT EXCESSIVE FORCE, IF THAT IS THE CASE AND SIMPLY PUT FORTH BY MR. CRUMP. SO NOW WE DON'T KNOW WHAT ANY OF THESE THINGS HAPPENED. I DON'T. >> OF THE BACKGROUNDS OF THE OFFICERS AS WELL. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO FORWARD IN ,FIND OUT A LOT MORE THAT COLIN POWELL WAS GOING ON AND THESE THINGS CAN CHANGE, CAN CHANGE SOCIETY CAN CHANGE POLICING. >> IT HAPPENS WITH RUDDI. SO THAT WAS IMPORTANT. AND THAT'S THAT'S A GOOD NOTE TO END ON THAT THAT WE CAN LEARN FROM THESE TRAGEDIES AND WORK WITH OUR POLICE TO FIND WAYS TO DO THINGS BETTER SO THAT HOPEFULLY ANOTHER FAMILY WON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH IT. >> BOB , THANKS VERY MUCH. COMING UP, THE QUESTIONS AND DOCUMENT DISCOVERIES. WE ARE WELL, IT JUST KEEPS COMING FOR PRESIDENT . WE ARE FOLLOWING IT FROM THE WHITE HOUSE. AND THAT INVESTIGATION INTO ALL THAT CLASSIFIED MATERIAL, MORE HAS SURFACED. HOW AND WHEN AND WHY NEXT ON ABS LOG. I TAKE YOU STRAIGHT TO MONTEREY PARK, CALIFORNIA. WHERE THAT DEADLY SHOOTING TOOK PLACE AT THOSE TWO DANCE HALLS BEFORE THE GUNMAN ACTUALLY TOOK HIS OWN LIFE. CALIFORNIA MAYOR HENRY LOWE AND OTHER OFFICIALS ARE THERE, INCLUDING THE GOVERNOR. WE HAVE LOCAL OFFICIALS THAT ARE SPEAKING RIGHT NOW. LET'S JUST LISTEN IN AND SEE WHAT WE HEAR AND IF WE CAN LEARN ANYTHING NEW . >> YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF HEALING TO DO. THE L.A. COUNTY WILL BE HERE. OUR MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES ARE HERE. ON THE GROUND, OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, AS WELL AS OUR RED CROSS AS WELL AS OUR OTHER SECONDARY AGENCIES. AND AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK THE CITY OF MONTEREY PARK. THIS SENIOR CENTER HERE STANDS AS A SYMBOL OF WELCOMING FOR ALL IMMIGRANTS. THAT'S HOW I CAME TO LEARN THIS COMMUNITY WELCOMING EVERYONE. AND IT CONTINUES TO BE RESILIENT. IT CONTINUE CONTINUALLY WILL BE DOING THAT AS WE BEGIN TO HEAL. AND WE HAVE MUCH MORE TO DO. WE ALSO HAVE SOME HEROES, THE YOUNG MAN THAT NOW MANY OF US KNOW HELPED TO STOP FURTHER SHOOTINGS FROM OCCURRING IN ALHAMBRA. THAT YOUNG MAN IS A HERO IN THE SAN GABRIEL VALLEY, REPRESENTING ALHAMBRA. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE SHOULD ALSO REFLECT ON IN SPITE OF SOMEONE SENSELESS MOTIVATIONS TO TRY TO KILL PEOPLE OR SHOOT PEOPLE. THIS THIS INDIVIDUAL DID WHAT MANY WOULD PROBABLY NEVER BE ABLE TO DO OR IMAGINE, BUT HE'S SAVED SO MANY MORE LIVES. SO LET'S ALSO THINK ABOUT THAT AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. LET US ALSO THROUGH THE NEXT FEW DAYS, REMEMBER THE FAMILIES THAT HAVE LOST LOVED ONES, AS WELL AS THOSE THAT ARE RECOVERING RIGHT NOW. AND I THINK ALL OUR EMERGENCY MEDICAL STAFF, OUR TEAMS, OUR HOSPITALS, EVERYONE THAT HAS PLAYED A BIG ROLE IN THIS WHOLE THIS WHOLE ACTIVITY THAT HAS BEEN OCCURRING RIGHT BEFORE OUR VERY OWN EYES. SO THANK YOU. WITH THAT, I'LL BRING IT BACK TO YOU. WHAT HE DID IN SPANISH, ANYBODY IN OUR GROUP HERE? >> I KNOW THIS IS KIND OF IMPROMPTU, SO MAYBE HE COULD SAY IN SPANISH, OKAY, AND THEN I'M GOING TO HAVE MATT TALK ABOUT THE CENTER ITSELF. >> THERE YOU GO . BUT JUST BRIEFLY IN SPANISH AND THEN WE'RE HERE MORE FROM THE EXPERTS HERE ON THE CENTER BEHIND METHODIST UNIDOS COLECTOMY THAT THAT TOLD ME. SO AS THEY GO INTO SPANISH, WHICH IS FANTASTIC, THERE'S A LOT WE KNOW THAT COMMUNITY, A LOT OF SPANISH SPEAKERS IN THAT COMMUNITY, IT'S NOT JUST ASIAN IS PREDOMINANTLY CHINESE AMERICAN, BUT IT IS A VERY CULTURAL AREA THERE IN MONTEREY. PARK. BUT GOVERNOR NEWSOM DID SPEAK EARLIER IN THE DAY. HE HELD A GAGGLE AS WELL, AND HE WAS TALKING ABOUT GUN REFORM. SEEMS LIKE EVERY TIME WE ARE COVERING ONE OF THESE MASS SHOOTINGS, THE POLITICAL SIDE OF THINGS COMES INTO PLAY. WE'RE TALKING WE TALK ABOUT GUN REFORM, LACK THEREOF. WHAT MORE NEEDS TO BE DONE? THE GOVERNOR ACTUALLY CAME FORWARD SAYING THE NUMBER ONE KILLER, THE NUMBER ONE KILLER OF OUR KIDS LAST YEAR WAS GUNS. AND OF COURSE, THIS WAS NOT EVEN A YEAR. RIGHT, SINCE WALDY IN THE SCHOOL SHOOTING THERE, THE GOVERNOR SAYING THE , WHAT THE HELL'S WRONG WITH US? I'M NOT SAYING TAKE EVERYBODY'S GUNS AND STOP THE EXTREME BACK AND FORTH. IS COMMON SENSE, COMMON DIGNITY. THE REASON I HAVEN'T DONE ALL THESE PRESS CONFERENCES, I WAS HERE THE WHOLE DAY. I CAN'T DO THIS AGAIN. I CAN'T KEEP GOING ON SAYING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN. I MEAN, IT'S JUST INSANE. THAT'S THE GOVERNOR REALLY HAMMERING IN ON ON GUN REFORM. BOB BOYCE, YOU'RE STILL WITH US FOLLOWING ALL THESE VARIOUS LIVE EVENTS WITH US TODAY. I THINK IT'S A LITTLE TOO SIMPLIFIED TO SAY THAT NATIONAL GUN REFORM IS GOING TO CHANGE WHAT WE'RE WITNESSING HERE. AGAIN, ANOTHER MASS SHOOTING, SEVEN MONTEREY PARK, CALIFORNIA. THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER ELEMENTS BESIDES GUN CONTROL, INCLUDING DEALING WITH MENTAL ILLNESS. >> WELL, AT THE INTERSECTION RIGHT THERE, BETWEEN MENTAL HEALTH AND THE SECOND AMENDMENT AND HOW WE CAN DO BETTER, WE ARE CALIFORNIA'S CONTIGUOUS STATES THAT HAVE MORE LAX GUN CONTROL. SO THAT IS A PROBLEM AS WELL. WE HAVE IN NEW YORK AS WELL, WHERE YOU HAVE STATES NEARBY, IT WAS EASIER TO OBTAIN WEAPONS . WE STILL DON'T KNOW HOW MR. TRAN GOT THAT WEAPON AND THEY'LL COME OUT IN THE COMING HOURS AND DAYS, BUT WE'LL SEE HOW WE CAN DO BETTER . I WILL TELL YOU, IF YOU CAN BUY A EXTENDED CAPACITY MAGAZINE ON THE INTERNET WITHOUT ANY INVESTIGATION, THAT'S A PROBLEM, BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE THESE GUNS LOADED UP AND IT'S MORE OF A THREAT TO THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE . AND SO JUST JUST EARLIER THIS MONTH, IT WAS SIX PEOPLE KILLED IN CALIFORNIA LOOK LIKE AT GANG RELATED SHOOTING, BUT NONETHELESS, A 10 MONTH OLD BABY AND HER SIX YEAR OLD MOTHER WERE KILLED. SO THIS IS A BIG PROBLEM. CALIFORNIA AND OTHER STATES , AND WE CAN DO BETTER. AND THAT HAS TO BE SOME KIND OF FEDERAL REFORM ON THESE THINGS, BECAUSE ALL THE STATES TOGETHER ,BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEMS, AS LONG AS AS LONG AS THERE HAVE BEEN HUMAN BEINGS, THERE WERE WAYS TO DEAL WITH PEOPLE WHO WERE DEEPLY AFFLICTED. RIGHT. THEY WERE INSTITUTIONALIZED IN A WAY THEY AREN'T ANYMORE. BUT REALLY, I JUST WONDER IF IT'S THE DIFFERENT THE DIFFERENCE IS THE FIREPOWER THAT THAT JUST MORE PEOPLE HAVE MORE ACCESS TO MORE LETHAL FIREPOWER THAN AT ANY TIME IN OUR HISTORY. >> YOU KNOW, IT'S A GREAT POINT. WE YOU JUST YOU WHEN I WAS A YOUNG COP AND IT WAS WORKING PLAINCLOTHES, THE GUNS WERE LIKE SATURDAY NIGHT SPECIALS THAT WE USED TO GET ALL THE TIME TO A FIFTY STATE COURSE AND A SMALL CALIBER WEAPONS. NOW YOU SEE THIS THESE HIGH HIGH CALIBER GUNS, QUALITY THINGS COME UP. YOU HAVE ALL THESE GHOST GUNS COMING OUT NOW. WE HAVEN'T SEEN IN YEARS PAST. AND SO THERE ARE THEY ENABLE A MORE A MORE MORE VIOLENT OUTPUT FROM FROM THAT INDIVIDUAL, FROM THAT MENTALLY DISTRESSED. I BELIEVE MR. TRENT WAS. BY THE WAY, EVERYTHING'S POINTING TO THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. OTHERWISE, IT MAKES SENSE THAT COMING THROUGH A TOUGH TIME IN HIS LIFE AND THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS MORE TO COME ON THAT. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE THE OVERALL LOOK AT THESE THINGS IS CHANGES DRAMATICALLY THAT THESE GUNS ARE GETTING MORE AND MORE POWERFUL AND LARGER CAPACITIES TO DO THIS DAMAGE. AND THAT HAS TO BE ADDRESSED. SO AS WE WERE LOOKING AT IS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SHOOTER, NO CRIMINAL BACKGROUND, BUT WE ARE GETTING INFORMATION NOW ABOUT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. SO, YOU KNOW, I KNOW EVERYTHING IS HYPOTHETICAL AT THIS MOMENT, BUT IF THAT INDEED IS WHAT IS A PART OF THIS AND AND HIS RAGE AND WHAT CAUSED HIM TO DO WHAT HE DID, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? TO YOU WITH NO CRIMINAL BACKGROUND TO THIS ATTACK TOOK PLACE. HE ACQUIRED THESE GUNS. IT HAPPENED THE NEW YEAR. SO I'M THINKING THAT HE WENT DOWN THIS TERRIBLE PATH. IS IT WAS IT IMMEDIATE RAGE? THAT WE SEE? DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS THE HUGE PROBLEM IN THIS COUNTRY. IT AFFECTS A CORE VALUE OF EVERY FAMILY. BUT THIS I DON'T KNOW IF IT APPLIES HERE. I SEE SOME PLANNING TO GO AGAINST THIS, ACQUIRING THESE WEAPONS IN A STOLEN PLANE AND CHANGING HIS CAR TO GET AWAY. ALL THESE THINGS WOULD SUGGEST TO ME AS AN INVESTIGATOR THAT HE HAD PLANNED THIS OUT AT SOME POINT. AND WHY IS UNKNOWN RIGHT NOW. BUT I DON'T THINK SO. IMMEDIATE REACTION OF ANGER THAT YOU GET A LOT OF TIMES WITH DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, THIS IS SOMETHING A BIT MORE THAN THAT. BUT I COULD BE WRONG. BUT THIS IS MY KNOWING. >> THE INFORMATION I HAVE RIGHT NOW TELLS ME THAT SOUNDS RIGHT. ALL RIGHT, BOYS. APPRECIATE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. AND JUST HELPING US WEAVE THROUGH ALL THE EVENTS OF THE DAY, LIVE EVENTS AND BREAKING STORIES. MOST RECENT ONE THERE AT MONTEREY PARK, CALIFORNIA. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE CONTINUING UPDATES FOR YOU, OF COURSE, ON THESE STORIES THROUGHOUT THE DAY. BUT LET'S TAKE YOU TO JAY O'BRIEN, WHO IS ON THE HILL. WE HAVE BEEN COVERING, OF COURSE, THE OTHER STORY, WHICH IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND MORE CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS. ANOTHER SEARCH, MORE DOCUMENTS ,CLEARLY MORE TO THE STORY EVERY TIME THEY LOOK, THEY KEEP FINDING MORE DOCUMENTS OF A PRESIDENT BY NOW FACING NEW CRITICISM FROM SOME REPUBLICANS AND FROM SOME DEMOCRATS. IT'S ALARMING WHAT IS BEING REVEALED ABOUT THE PRESIDENT'S HANDLING OF CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS OVER THE YEARS. >> LET'S TAKE IT TO JAY O'BRIEN, WHO IS ON THE HILL AND HAS BEEN FOLLOWING THIS FOR US . SO, JAY, WHAT DO WE KNOW AT THIS POINT? GUYS? WELL, LET'S START WITH WHAT WE KNOW FROM OVER THE WEEKEND, THAT SEARCH OF THE PRESIDENT'S HOME BY FBI AGENTS. SO THE WHITE HOUSE SAYING IN A PRESS BRIEFING NOT LONG AGO AND ALSO SAYING OVER THE WEEKEND THAT THIS SEARCH WAS BECAUSE OF COOPERATION BETWEEN PRESIDENT BIDEN'S PERSONAL ATTORNEYS AND THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. THIS IS A SEARCH THAT WENT ON ALL DAY FRIDAY. WE LEARNED ABOUT IT ON SATURDAY. THERE WERE SIX ITEMS WITH CLASSIFICATION MARKINGS SEIZED. THERE WERE TAKEN BY FBI AGENTS. BUT AGAIN, THE PRESIDENT'S LAWYER SAYING THAT THEY OFFERED THE FBI ACCESS HERE. >> THEN, OF COURSE, IT IS STILL ,THOUGH, THE CONTINUATION OF THIS DRIP, DRIP, DRIP THAT WE'VE SEEN, AS TERRY NOTED, MORE CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS TURNING UP WITH EACH SEARCH, WHICH IS GIVING, OF COURSE, THE PRESIDENT'S ENEMIES IN CONGRESS, REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS WHO ARE INVESTIGATING THIS IN THEIR OWN INVESTIGATION ,MORE POLITICAL AMMUNITION, GUYS, IN PART SET ASIDE POLITICS BECAUSE EVERY TIME THEY LOOKED AT FINDING NEW DOCUMENTS, NEW CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS, THE NATION'S SECRETS IN THE POSSESSION OF MEN WHO NO LONGER OUGHT TO HAVE HAD THEM WHEN HE WAS OUT OF OFFICE. SOME OF THESE NEWLY DISCOVERED DOCUMENTS DATE BACK TO JOE BIDEN'S TIME IN THE SENATE. THAT'S 14 YEARS AGO NOW. AT LEAST. AND EVERY PLACE THEY LOOK, IT SEEMS THERE'S MORE OF THESE CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS. THIS IS A BIG DEAL ON INLAW. AND NOW UP ON THE HILL, AS YOU SAY, THE REPUBLICANS, THEY'RE JUST GOING TO MAKE HAY OUT OF THIS. BUT WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR THE INVESTIGATION? WILL REEVE YOU'RE HEARING SOME DEMOCRATS NOW, DICK DURBIN OF ILLINOIS, WHO ARE EXPRESSING MILDLY BUT GENUINELY CONCERN ABOUT THE CARELESSNESS WITH WHICH IT APPEARS JOE BIDEN HANDLED HIS RESPONSIBILITIES ABOUT OUR NATION'S SECRETS. >> WELL, IT'S WORTH UNPACKING ALSO, TERRY, A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT YOU SAID AT THE BEGINNING THERE, WHICH IS THIS NOTION OF HOW SERIOUS CLASSIFICATION IS THE PRESIDENT AND HIS ALLIES AND THE WHITE HOUSE HAVE REPEATEDLY SAID THAT THE PRESIDENT TAKES CLASSIFIED SERIOUSLY. OUR OWN MARY BRUCE IN THE WHITE HOUSE PRESS BRIEFING JUST MOMENTS AGO PRESENTED THAT QUESTION TO THE PRESS SECRETARY SAYING IN A SENSE, ACTUALLY HEAR HER DIRECT WORDS, WHY SHOULD WE BELIEVE WAS THE QUESTION HE ASKED. THE PRESIDENT TAKES CLASSIFICATION SERIOUSLY, GIVEN THE FACT THAT THERE ARE DOCUMENTS TO KEEP TURNING UP WITH EVERY PROCEEDING OR EVERY SUCCESSIVE SEARCH HERE. THE WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY SAYS, LOOK, THE PRESIDENT TAKES CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS SERIOUSLY. >> SHE REITERATES THE ANSWER THERE. SHE SAYS WHETHER OR NOT HE'S DOING THE RIGHT THING IS UP TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO ULTIMATELY DECIDE. AND THEN THERE'S THIS EXCHANGE THAT I WANT TO PLAY. >> YOU SAID AND HE SAID, YOU YOU SAID HE SAID ON THE DOCUMENT, HE SAID HE WAS SURPRISED THAT THE DOCUMENTS WERE THERE. HE SAID THAT AND THAT HE TAKES THIS VERY SERIOUSLY. THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE UNDERSTAND. >> AND I JUST REFER PEOPLE MIGHT QUESTION THAT, GIVEN THAT YOU KEEP EVERY I MEAN, EVERY FEW DAYS WE'RE FINDING THAT MORE DOCUMENTS HAVE BEEN FOUND IN HIS HOUSE. WHAT I'M TELLING YOU IS WHAT THE PRESIDENT HAS SAID, WHICH IS HE TAKES THIS VERY SERIOUSLY . I WILL REFER YOU TO DETAILED EXPLANATIONS FROM STATEMENTS THAT HAVE COME FROM HIS FROM HIS PERSONAL LAWYER. AGAIN, ANYTHING FURTHER ON THIS? MY COLLEAGUE IS GOING TO BE TAKING YOUR QUESTIONS IN THE 4:00 HOUR. >> I WOULD REFER YOU TO THE SO THAT EXCHANGE IS PRECIPITATED BY MARY BRUCE ASKING, DID THE PRESIDENT KNOW THAT THOSE CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS WERE THERE? AND YOU HEARD WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY KARINE JEAN-PIERRE THERE GO WITH WHAT THE PRESIDENT SAID, WHICH WAS THAT HE WAS SURPRISED THAT THEY WERE THERE, BUT SHE DIDN'T REALLY ANSWER MRS. QUESTION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT HE HAD ANY PRIOR KNOWLEDGE. GUYS. YEAH, IT'S REMARKABLE. IT DOES SEEM LIKE THE PROBLEM IS THAT HE WAS SURPRISED THAT HE HAD CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS THAT I GUESS IT'S BETTER THAN THAT HE KNEW . BUT IT'S BAD THAT HE

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